5,314,688
Often the non-local lenders are internet lenders who are not always reliable. In reality, your buyer can't be forced to use another lender or even to get a preapproval from one... but the question your buyer needs to answer is if it's worth doing if that is what makes the difference between having their offer accepted or not.
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Anthony Kirlew
Gilbert, AZ
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Carla Freund
Raleigh, NC
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Joan Cox
Denver, CO
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Peter Mohylsky,
Miramar Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,619,961
I'm replying first to how your question reads: No, they can't force you to do that-it's illegal to steer to any lender; but I can see why they are concerned, since other states do things differently.
BUT....what I think you meant was "cross qualify"?
They can ask your client to "cross-qualify" but all that entails is having your lender contact the seller's lender to verify approval. That is done all the time. But your buyer doesn't need to talk to their lender.
My lender Jason E. Gordon cross qualifies my buyers for me often. I never let my buyers talk to the other lender - why trouble them?
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Carla Freund
Raleigh, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
662,753
If your in multiple offers sometimes a strong local lender letter can make the difference in getting the deal or not. Won a deal that way last year. No one can force a buyer to use a local lender however I have seen a similar situation w/ REO properties where the bank will require a pre approval from a specific lender.
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Carla Freund
Raleigh, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Joan Cox
Denver, CO
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Haiku, HI
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
3,430,697
I am with Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets on this. My lender cross qualifies a buyer's financial strength. We cannot force a buyer to use a particular lender. We can as a condition of acceptance require cross-qualification with the seller's lender.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
2,708,508
Hi, Austin
They are afraid of internet lenders (understandably). However, that does not allow them to steer you to a local lender. But as others said, if you want your offer accepted, you may have to play their game.
Get the extra preapproval; once you are under contract your Buyer can decide which lender to go with.
Suggest,: call a real estate attorney and ask for advice. Preferably a law firm that does Title Closings, they may give you the advice for free.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,870,553
I do not trust internet lenders because the buyers punch in the numbers which might be accurate for all income situations. A secondary pre-qual is not bad advice.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
3,213,639
Because some prequalification letters are about as good as cheap hotel toilet paper.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Greg Large
Grove City, OH
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Karen Climer
Orlando, FL
3,267,216
Perhaps it is an effort to get your buyers to go with the local lender who knows laws and regulations in their state. I refer local, trusted professionals to my clients but they are free to choose their own as long as they are licensed to do business here.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
6,689,901
Important to have a lender that is accountable and reachable.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Karen Climer
Orlando, FL
4,361,352
Hello Austin McKenzie I don't think a seller can demand a buyer must use a local lender.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,444,698
Great answers here...but...lets back up a bit.
Confrontation with the listing agent by refusing to qualify with a local lender does not seem like a good way to advance the prospect for your buyer. Our purchase contract does not mention the name of a lender. It mentions loan structure but no specific lender. You can have a back-up plan with a local lender and it may be what make the deal work.
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Joan Cox
Denver, CO
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
5,488,385
I get it! Those non-local lenders (mostly internet lenders) never seem to Close on time and this creates a giant snowball effect to many. I have out-of-state lenders who are amazing and I will vouch for them when things like this happen. So far, I've never had an issue but, the sellers don't know my lenders from Adam. It's best to play their game if my buyers want to win!
In this market, sellers often request that buyers be qualified by a reputable lender. It doesn't cost them a dime, doesn't impact their credit score and if it means helping them win in a bidding war, I would encourage the buyers to do this.
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
1,641,844
They can't force someone to use a lender. I think it is just to get a second opinion as to whether the buyer qualifies. To me, it is a rather inane practice.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - W...
St. George, UT
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Signature Homes & Estates
Gilroy, CA
1,765,758
All lenders are not created equal. Here in HI we prefer a local lender as some mainland lenders don't understand the nuances of resort properties/condos.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,121,821
Nobody is forcing anybody to "use" their lender. But many agents, when presented with a preapproval from a lender they are not familiar with, or one they don't have confidence in, may require your buyer to get a preapproval from a trusted lender, in order to assure their seller that this buyer is legit.
And there's nothing illegal, steering or forced about it. Your buyer doesn't have to USE that second lender... just get preapproved with them to convince the seller that they're loan-worthy.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,416,372
The short answer is most non local lenders are internet lenders that can not seem to close any loans which can mean the sale is doomed before you start
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
789,744
A pre-approval is worth about as much as the paper it is written on. A local lender really means a lender that the listing agent knows and trusts.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Buzz Mackintosh
Frederick, MD
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Shayne Stone
Fulshear, TX
1,260,010
I am in agreement with Nina Hollander, Broker
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Joan Cox
Denver, CO
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
4,739,745
In reality, depending on market conditions, one side in a real estate transaction typically to be seems to be more flexible in terms of negotiating so their client can win. "He who has the gold makes the rules".
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Joan Cox
Denver, CO
18,374
First tie seeing such a thing. It's steering if they trying to push you to use their 'preffered' lender
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Joan Cox
Denver, CO
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Pete Beeda
Bolingbrook, IL
2,576,596
There are lenders (even here on AR) who are active in multiple states and can do a darn good job.... that being said, sellers and their agents may believe a local agent is better, and therefore, may want the buyer to use a mortgage professional they are familiar with. Honestly, there are local mortgage agents who stink and there are non-local ones that do also. It's important for a buyer to be using someone who can get the job done, regardless of where they are.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
6,006,421
I have seen this many times, as non-local lenders (or Internet lenders) are notorious for not closing on time.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
921,504
Local lenders will use local appraisers. A Calif lender may use an appraisal pool located 90 miles away. I do see appraisers from ORLANDO.
If the listing agent is not inclined to do the appraisers work for them, directing to a local lender is more convenient
It's a heads up to the buyer agent to:
1. Make buyer more receptive in the mind of the seller
2. Communicate a buyer willing to be more compliant
3. This is the first step in the negotiation process. Resistance here, where it really does not matter could suggest an ambush where it does matter.
Listing agent is leaving clues, it is up to the buyer and their agent to follow along.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,101,389
Oh this was a common request during the heavy REO market. Use who you want, but we want our lender to verify that your lender doesn't qualify a ham sandwich routinely, and your PQ isn't written on TP.
I have seen more times than I can count out-of-area lenders who thought they could do Arizona and found out they could not. Thought they could do a manufactured home and found out they could not. etc etc.
We have a couple of loan peeps in our area who are just golden. This is what I tell buyers. Use who you want, but if I have a stack of offers all otherwise equal, the gold guys are at the top of that pile. My advice to the seller is: these guys don't screw up, we don't know anything about these other ones. Then they decide.
I may have conversations with unknown lenders to see if they can answer simple questions. I have encountered really good out-of-area lenders via some of those conversations.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
8,153,525
Follow the regulations in your state.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
5,485,998
I'll go with the explanation by Alan May. Perhaps prudent and perhaps a waste of time.
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
654,978
Objective commentary here (from the perspective of a Lender).
**While unnecessary in theory, this is a power move by the Listing Agent, and sadly, they hold all the cards nowadays
**Clearly a Lender must be licensed in the state where the subject property is located (otherwise the lack of legal ability to lend disqualifies the Lender right there and then)
**To assume a non-local Lender is better/worse than a local Lender simply by where they are geographically based is irresponsible, lazy, and short-sighted (literally)
**To assume a non-local Lender works at a transactional-based call center is careless. Some do, some don't, but let's not take food off the table of a Lender unjustifiably based on loose assumptions. As an example, imagine someone assuming a property 30 miles from your office is too far out of your area for you to be a viable Agent to assist on an escrow.
**In my humble opinion, all Real Estate Agents should insist that a relationship (reputation) based Lender be used on ALL escrows (regardless of where the Lender and Subject Property are based). It comes down to professionalism, accountability & experience (newbies typically work in transactional-based call centers...this is where they learn the ropes...and trust me when I say that you do not want a Lender learning the ropes amidst YOUR escrow)
**Over the past few years, we have seen an industry-wide spike in homebuyers moving out-of-state. As a California-based Lender, I've had a ton of repeat clients seek out my services to buy property in other states. Personally, I think it is highly suspect for a Real Estate Agent to assume a non-local Lender is problematic (especially when I have funded loans for these clients in the past)
**The best practice when placing any scrutiny on the Lender is to determine the extent of the pre-approval (i.e. have all income/credit/asset documentation been reviewed? If so, by whom? Loan Officer? Underwriter?)
As others have commented, even if this Listing Agent insists that your client get pre-approved elsewhere, nobody can force your client on where to obtain his/her/their mortgage loan. To insist the loan be funded with a particular Lender is steering and I trust that Listing Agent would stop short of putting that demand in writing.
Perhaps you can instead counter to a "cross-approval" and have the original Lender share the approval documentation with the Seller's (Listing Agent's) preferred Lender. Personally, this is a service I offer to each of my Clients/Agents. It saves the Clients a credit inquiry (imagine them getting an unnecessary credit inquiry AND not getting their offer accepted...now imagine that happening multiple times).
Hope this perspective helps.
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John Meussner
Fair Oaks, CA
942,327
You have some great answers here. Each state has unique contracts and situations. While an agent/seller can't control the lender that is used, a local lender is viewed as better since they know the contracts, the timeframes, etc. I often call the lender just to see if they're responsive, have pulled credit, and have a good sense of whether or not the buyer is really pre-approved. Most buyers can get a pre-qual from someone on the internet. The question is can that lender follow through and in a timely manner.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
414,579
Lots of foreclosures required cross prequalifying in the last 10 years. Never an issue for my buyers, their loan officer just called the owning lender and handled it.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,849,178
Two reasons come to mind swiftly. 1. They want their guy to make-out and 2. How do they know your guy can perform? Is it legit? The listing agent has control and as such can do whatever they want is the general rule
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
86,711
Please visit the link for your information:
https://www.compareclosing.com/blog/mortgage-pre-approval-in-texas/
424,263
A preapproval with a commitment by Underwriter from unknown company might not feel strong. Listing agent can't make them close with in house or buddy in the business BUT it's likely if they don't cooperate, they don't get accepted. Here are two work arounds: Lender who offered pre approval gets buyer authorization. They send the MISMO 3.4 file, credit report, income verification, front page of bank statements. Buddy can review everything but is not authorized to re-pull credit. Extra work for everyone but gets to finish line. Or buddy lender talks with buyer lender and checks off what is in the file verbally
157,888
In this competitive market, some selling agents prefer a local lender because some online lenders have a reputation (right or wrong) of being hard to reach, or failing to close on time.
While no one can tell a buyer who to use, they can certainly advise their seller client to choose a buyer with a local lender over one without it.
922,444
It doesn't sound like a legal practice. There are many reasons why local lenders may be preferred, but it cannot be made a legitimate requirement to secure acceptance of an offer.
933,368
That was common practice with bank owned properties. Some lenders wanted to be assured of the financing, and if they know that they would approve the financing, then they figured everything was fine with any other lenders that buyers wanted to use. Being approved by 2 different lenders should make a buyers offer look stronger.