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Peter Lee, Real Estate Specialist (Fathom Realty - Union Park)

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John Pusa
Glendale, CA

Hello Peter Lee I suggest fallow Candice A. Donofrio good detailed response.

Feb 19, 2022 01:49 PM
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate (435) 632-9374 - St. George, UT
St. George Utah Area Residential Sales Agent

What Candice said.

Feb 19, 2022 11:26 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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The formula is I R V - income divided by value or income divided by cap rate. OR cap rate times value (to determine if the income is sufficient to justify the asking price)



You'll need to know the Net, first thing.
This means you'll need to know the income AND EXPENSES.

If you don't know the expenses outright, you'll need to create a proforma and determine the likely expenses for the property based on condition, taxes, advertising, management costs, vacancy rates, etc.

ONCE YOU KNOW these 2 things . . . you can determine cap rate for the property and the best purchase price.

EXAMPLE: 300k asking price, rents total 3000/month or 36k annually.

Your expenses are 12,000 a year so your NOI is 24k annually.
DIVIDE 24k by 300k and your figure is .08. 8 cap.
MULTIPLY 300k by 8% and you get 24,000. That's the net you'd need at that cap rate to justify the asking price.

In my area 8 cap would be fairly investor-friendly.
In Vegas that would be a golden unicorn . . .

If this is a RESIDENTIAL property, you would not use NOI as a rule.

Feb 19, 2022 03:19 PM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

If you Google your question, you get this answer.

Net operating income (NOI) is a commonly used figure to assess the profitability of a property. The calculation involves subtracting all operating expenses on the property from all the revenue generated from the property. The higher the revenues and the smaller the expenses, the more profitable a property is.

Feb 19, 2022 01:50 PM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Candice gave you the easiest to remember - IRV.

Feb 19, 2022 12:21 PM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

IRV - The NOI divided by the Desired Rate of Return will Price the Property
ie. $24,000 / .10 =. $240,000 Value

Feb 20, 2022 05:49 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Candice A. Donofrio has you covered with an easy to understand example. 

Feb 20, 2022 04:49 AM
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Bob Crane
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Generally not an issue for most agents, however if you are going to be providing this for your investment listings you will need to get it right or you could be opening yourself up to liability.

Feb 19, 2022 06:57 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
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Study hard Peter Lee - the formulas tend to trip up a lot of people. I wish you all the best with obtaining your real estate license. 

Feb 19, 2022 02:21 PM
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Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

I think Candice explained it best.  CCIM teaches one to use IRR.  

Feb 20, 2022 06:07 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

I do not use NOI I use CAP Rate.

Feb 20, 2022 08:56 AM