Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate)

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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Why? Because they can, Fred! Terrible shortage of plumbers out there. One of the largest plumbing companies in Charlotte region is down 90 needed plumbers. That's 25% of their work force! Plumbing contracting companies are "firing" builders here because they can't support their needs.


Plus what Jeff Pearl said, too.

Aug 29, 2021 04:47 AM
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Did plumber have to pull permit? Spend 2-3 hours getting parts? Not enough info. Most plumbers in this area are honest, and they will give you an estimate up front. Probably $80.00 per hour plus materials is close to normal. More if they need to pull permit.

Aug 28, 2021 04:56 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Hello Fred - there is no shortage of people who have felt bilked because of an outrageous experience with a tradesperson whether that be a plumber, auto mechanic or something like an attorney, doctor or even a real estate practitioner.  Maybe your friend was mistreated, there is not enough information provided for me to determine that but we do know that word of mouth can be an effective way to get ones point made.   Can a judge decide?  Nah, I am sure that system is rigged too.  

Aug 28, 2021 04:52 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ

We've had a couple of great plumbers over the years. All have been reasonably priced and do an awesome job.  Still do.

Aug 28, 2021 06:01 PM
Diana Zaccaro Broker Associate
Tropical Beachside brokered by eXp - Cocoa Beach, FL
"The Accidental Blogger" Cocoa Beach, Florida

I always pay plumbers by the hour, both for PM and personal services. The only exception is if it is something like installing a new water heater which is usually billed at a flat rate here. 

Rates for plumbers here on the beach range from $90-$120/hr. If I use trades from the mainland, their hourly rates are usually higher because they add in travel time to and from the job so I use beachside trades as much as possible. Plus the goodwill of giving the business to local small businesses is important to me.

I have never had a bad experience with any of the plumbers I used but cannot say the same about a certain electrician. But that's another conversation!!!


Aug 28, 2021 05:53 PM
Shayne Stone
HomeSmart - Fulshear, TX
"Your Rock Solid Choice Realtor" RETIRED

I remember a story explaining why Pros charge what they do!


A homeowner was having an issue with a creaking in a wooden floor. He called around looking for a handyman to repair, pricing everyone. He was quoted from $50 to $545 for the repair.


He decided to go with the cheapest one in town and hired him. A month later, the creaking started again. So, he decided to contact the higher price Pro.


The Pro cam out and viewed the issue, and went to the hardware store to purchase the new tool (hammer) needed for the job. He than cam back to the site and used the new hammer only once and told the client that he will send him the bill.


2-months later the client called yelling at the Pro saying he thought he had to pay to much for the Pro's services...


The Pro asked him if the problem came back and the client said NO, the Pro than said well the problem was resolve and started explaining why he charge so much. He said the $45 of $545 charge was for the new tool (hammer) he needed to fix the problem, the client than said what the hell was the $500 charge for?




Aug 29, 2021 10:18 AM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Should have gone to plumbing school instead of law school. Better return!

Aug 29, 2021 04:42 AM
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Because they weren't able to make enough as lawyers!

Aug 28, 2021 07:26 PM
Joseph Domino 480-390-6011
HomeSmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Real Estate Made Easy

Hey Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate A few years ago I wrote a blogpost about this subject. Check it out you might get a laugh out of it.

Aug 29, 2021 09:52 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Why does a dog lick its cajones?  

Because it can. 

I always get written estimates.  If it makes sense, I move forward. If not, I get more estimates. 

Aug 29, 2021 09:11 AM
Peter Mohylsky, Beach Expert
PMI. Destin - Miramar Beach, FL
Call me at 850-517-7098

My recent experiences were not all that bad.  

Aug 29, 2021 05:13 AM
Susie Kay
Ultra Real Estate Dallas Fort Worth - Plano, TX
North Dallas Specialist

Yes, they are costly.  I always obtain bids, but they still charge a diagnosis fee or for coming.  So if I get 3 bids, I easily spend $250 - $300 for the bids. 🙄

Aug 29, 2021 06:23 PM
Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

3 hours? $1300? That seems a little high if it was just labor

Aug 29, 2021 04:28 PM
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA

I have used the same plumber several times. He is competent a I do not feel that I am overpaying.

Aug 29, 2021 03:07 PM
Tony Lewis
Summit Real Estate Group - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Group Valencia & Aliso Viejo

They charge what they do because they can.  Look at how much we make at times.

Aug 29, 2021 12:01 PM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

They charge an arm & a leg plus parts. Sometimes it can be totally gross to do their job.

The estimate that your friend got didn't seem out of line. 

Aug 29, 2021 06:55 AM
Karen Climer
Demetree School of Real Estate - Orlando, FL
Teaching people to pass the real estate exam

I have always had excellent service with the plumber I use.  I have never felt overcharged.

It sounds like you have one case study of someone who felt overcharged, and are now making a blanket statement of that entire profession. 

Based on that, should we ask why real estate agents are so bad at returning phone calls?  I had a case where the agent didn't return my phone call, so that must make it true of the entire profession.

Most people in most professions are people like you - they are trying to do a good job and make a decent living.

Aug 29, 2021 06:48 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Those plumber bills can be very expensive!   

Aug 29, 2021 06:43 AM
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

They do not charge too much money.
Just take a poll here.
Who mows their own grass?
Many will say "MY time is worth too much to be spent mowing grass."
The plumber says, "Your time is worth $1,3000 to me. Pay up."
Because I value the time (and life) of others, my plumber finishes a job and asks, 'What was that worth to you?" And I pay him double what the going rate would be.
I do not believe a tradesman is ever over paid.
Crooks are alwasy overpaidl
My advise is 'don't create crooks!" 
And as luck would have it, upon return from vactation, I see my disposal is not keeping the water on the right side of the enclosure. I don't think this is rocket sceince. The real problem is, The consumer products available to me at the Depot AND Lowes is a much inferior product to that which the tradesman has access to. 
For example the water heater at HD comes with a vinyl drain connection. Actuating this drain one time results in the fitting leaking perpetually. The trademan will install exactly the same brand but the fitings will be BRASS. Perhaps the manufacturer knows NO ONE EVER drains the water heater to clean the tank. But for no extra dollars the tradesman installs a higher quality product. If one chooses a trandesman that goes to the DEPOT....the red flags should be waving.
This puts the DIY'er in a very uncomfortable situation.
And is the favorite retort of real estate agents? "You get what you pay for."

Aug 29, 2021 06:29 AM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

Plumbers ask the same thing about real estate agents and brokers. If you know how to change a wax seal, solder a joint or work with pex tubing, or to replace the gut's of a toilet, you are not dependent on calling the guy or gal with the snake and pipe wrench. Watch a video, become DIY and it helps if you grew up around household repairs. 

Aug 29, 2021 05:40 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

The plumber I work with knows things and as such, he shares them for a price. Similar to what a doctor, attorney or CPA would do. Add agent too. This guy has all the tools, a truck, savvy, strong as a bull, crawls under floors and in ceiling spaces and his work is impeccable. Are there cheaper alternatives? Sure and I have used them. There is something about a professional plumber where you know his work will last. Worth every 1ct

Aug 28, 2021 08:42 PM
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

Probably from being driven crazy by the plops of all the drips!

Aug 29, 2021 03:59 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

The plumbers I work with are very reasonable.  The best ones charge by the job.  I remember one time they were installing a water heater and it turned into a three plumber job with loads of swear words over four hours.  At the end of the installation, having been there representing the seller who was away, I asked how much the job was actually going to cost the seller.  It was the flat rate they quoted on the phone.  THAT is the way to get future business.  And boy do they still get my recommendation.

Aug 29, 2021 03:08 PM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

We have a good relationship with our plumbers and are fairly billed.

Aug 29, 2021 10:32 AM
Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

I've been using the same plumber for years, their prices are very reasonable but I still always get three estimates so the homeowners can see. Everything in my area has gone up, all about supply and demand.

Aug 30, 2021 05:28 AM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Because we allow the codes to require us to use plumbers for simple jobs that anyone can do.

Then supply and demand takes over from there.

Aug 29, 2021 09:55 PM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy


I am late here.  There are a lot of good answers, and it depends on so many variables.  All is well in our "water conduits", etc. and I have not seen a bill in a long time, here.  Happy  Monday.  A


Aug 30, 2021 09:59 AM
Ray Henson
eXp Realty of California, Inc. (lic. #01878277) - Elk Grove, CA

It depends on the plumber.  In my experience, it is best to use smaller contractors that do not have big advertising budgets.  We just hired a individual for work in our rental.  He quoted us a price and then charged us less. 

Aug 30, 2021 09:56 AM
Aaron Mears
House Stories - Kent, WA
Real Estate Analyst and Writer

That's because of supply and demand!

Aug 30, 2021 12:34 AM
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

She says 3 hours of work? What kind of work? 

My best friend's husband is a retired GC, plumbing is his specialty. He can make things work that no one else could and he never wants me to pay him. So I sneak C-notes into his truck and tell his wife to go get them!

Plumbers are worth their weight if they are good. If they get it done and right, I don't really care what they charge!

Aug 30, 2021 11:08 AM
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

One answer is we need more trade schools to train more plumbers.

Aug 30, 2021 09:37 AM
Jason E. Gordon
CMG Mortgage, San Diego, CA - San Diego, CA

Supply and demand.  People will pay anything when the plumbing backs up!

Aug 30, 2021 08:52 AM
Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers - Haiku, HI
Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info

They have a shitty job to do.  Much of the time it involves messy, smelly stuff, and getting into awkward positions.  Time spent also includes getting to the job and back, and shopping for the parts.  Plumbing skills are good to have so you can avoid some of the simpler fixes.

Aug 31, 2021 07:09 PM
Don Baker
Lane Realty - Eatonton, GA
Lake Sinclair Specialist

because you have to have it done.

Aug 30, 2021 01:57 PM