Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR  ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets, & Host of Postcards From Success Podcast (Big Block Realty 858.232.8722)

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Brian England
Arizona Focus Realty - Gilbert, AZ
MBA, GRI, REALTOR® Real Estate in East Valley AZ

I think you should advise that he consult his broker, haha.  I was able to login today so I consider that quite an accomplishment in and of itself, haha.

Jul 19, 2020 07:09 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

There you have it!  

Consumers rarely know when they are being underserved by the agent they are working with. I've had real estate agents sign up for the MLS feed on my WordPress site. 

Jul 19, 2020 05:12 PM
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
www.SIBRealty.org 305-931-6931

Thomas

Every other day I have calls from agents, they do not have MLS access. 

They are using MLS of the manager, broker. 

Now, it is a question to your question. How can it be?! 

Low split companies advertise :"You don't need MLS" 

Only a few listings have simple lock box. Most of our listings - Supra. NO MLS - no Supra access. 

Why pay MLS if you can go by and use homebody's?!

Jul 19, 2020 12:48 PM
Rainer
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David M. Dwares
Title Professionals Corp. - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Title guy with a broker license

You are probably better off not having to deal with this agent through an entire transaction, unless you like teaching.

Jul 19, 2020 11:52 AM
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Ken Jones
Kenneth J. Jones, Inc., REALTORS® - Springfield, NJ
Real Estate Broker/Owner

Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor e-Pro, CRS, RCS-D, Vets What you're seeing is the changing attitude toward the multiple listing systems being run by NAR.

Many new real estate brokerage business plans see NAR for what they are; a money grab that provides nothing of value in return.

And, what you see as potentially limiting, they see has liberating themselves from MLS rules and regs they find too restrictive.

I'm not taking a side in this comment; only offering my analysis of what I see happening.

Jul 19, 2020 08:48 AM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

The agent has a lot to learn!

Jul 19, 2020 08:11 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Principals never know who they will get as the contrast and compare is done afterwards when it is too late to anything about it unless it was good...Pick a profession and there are those who lack the "calling" to be in it correctly..

Jul 19, 2020 06:10 AM
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Peter Mohylsky. Beach Expert
PrimeSouth Properties - Santa Rosa Beach, FL
THE BEACH IS OPEN

Congrats, I am sure he will be very successful.

Jul 19, 2020 04:14 AM
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor

I'll vote for ignorant or "thick" as opposed to crazy Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor e-Pro, CRS, RCS-D, Vets . If I had an agent under me who did not use the MLS he/she would great an education of the importance of using the MLS I as a Broker am paying for. If they still don't get it I would show them the door being they are not giving the clients of MY Brokerage the full service they deserve.

Jul 20, 2020 08:04 AM
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Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Orlando, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Orlando Home Buyers

What, that is a surprise?

I have several  agents call me to ask me real estate questions or they want to schedule a showing with me. ( no, we do not have any listings)

They are so stupid that they cannot figure out that a Buyer Broker is...

Nothing surprises me...

Eve

Jul 20, 2020 05:59 AM
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J.R. Schloemer, CRS
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

You lost me someowhere around "...use...App". My thoughts went off on a tangent at that point.

Jul 19, 2020 08:49 PM
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Realty - Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

Well, there ya go. He's bought the Red Fin kool-aid

Jul 19, 2020 06:49 PM
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Steve Higgins
RE/MAX Kelowna - Kelowna, BC

Good luck to him! 

Jul 19, 2020 06:49 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Too old? Maybe.

My market research pertaining to the Tampa Bay area would suggest 'the kid' is not off base and since Zdevil and Redfin and MLS have the same stuff, it don't see the 'limiting his buyers' problem.

However, you may have missed an opportunity to collect an upfront train'n fee. You could have told him his broker will reimburse.

All problems in real estate originate at the broker. It can be insufficient train'n or agreeing to turn all REALTORS into order takers. Until someone shows courage to break from the herd, the REALTOR landscape remains unchanged.

Jul 19, 2020 01:41 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams Fox Cities - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Real estate seems to be so full of potential teaching moments for our clients and for other agents.

 

Jul 19, 2020 11:36 AM
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Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Thomas keep in mind it is easy to get into this profession the bar is pretty low just sayin.... now to succeed is another story,Endre

Jul 20, 2020 03:08 PM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

LOLZ well his 'only Redfin App' ain't working for him. Derp!

We've all had to adjust over the years to do what needed to be done.

Adapt or die kid! 

Jul 20, 2020 10:52 AM
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Anna Banana Kruchten Arizona's Top Banana!
HomeSmart Real Estate BR030809000 - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

So you're old school now!!  Some of the youngsters just don't get it and it may take awhile before they do, if ever.

 

Are you part of the old guard too?  I am.

Jul 20, 2020 10:49 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Hello Thomas---I have yet to see "craziness" develop by listening to real estate chatter but as we know many things are possible. 

Jul 20, 2020 08:46 AM
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Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  In Florida, it's not so much an MLS vs. Redfin App issue, it is EASE OF ENTRY into this so-called profession.  A high school diploma and a 63 hour online course, then pass a fairly easy State exam. 

    No business experience required, no common sense necessary, no tech skills, no understanding of how houses are constructed or maintained, no real world experience of any kind.

   I am all for free enterprise, for capitalism, for people being able to go into business for themselves... but we are talking about selling houses and investment properties for hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars.  There must be more training, and some sort of apprenticeship or residency requirement before these newbie numpties are released upon the buying and selling public.

Jul 20, 2020 07:58 AM
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Jason E. Gordon
AmeriFirst Financial Inc, San Diego, CA - San Diego, CA
Sr. Loan Officer, CMPS, CDLP, CDRE, RCS-D, CDPE

Just as old dogs need to learn new tricks, the new dogs would be wise to acclimate to some of the time tested rituals already in place.

Jul 20, 2020 07:44 AM
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Greg Large
ERA Real Solutions - Grove City, OH
A Tradition of Trust

Definitely limiting his Buyers and not even providing minimum service, can't comment on level of craziness, IMHO, sounds underfunded to be in the business.

Jul 20, 2020 07:36 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Not having access to MLS and being an agent is ridiculous.   I feel sorry for his clients!  

Jul 20, 2020 05:19 AM
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Brenda Mayette
Miranda Real Estate Group, Inc. - Glenville, NY
Getting results w/ knowledge & know-how!

Oh it's amazing who the public will trust their biggest purchase (or sale) to.  I had one over the weekend that didn't know a property had a contract on it w/ a 48 hour contingency.  It's right on the MLS but I didn't tell her so.....! SMH!! 

Jul 20, 2020 04:46 AM
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Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

Our Realtor.ca is Realtor owned and FREE and I'm finding more and more Realtors are using it instead of MLS because it covers Canada from East to West (excluding Quebec of course!)  I'm sitting in the middle of 3 MLS boards who don't cooperate.

Jul 20, 2020 10:07 AM
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

Reminds me of the call I got yesterday from Hawaii where I am also a broker. Here's his story as I understood it: former licenssee who let his license expire; is catching up on all the continuing education, wants to "refer" business now to a broker." Are you kidding me? Paying a referral fee to a non-active agent is illegal in Hawaii and California and probably around the country.  Oh, he knew that, that's why he was calling me, I'm a broker and I can take referrals. I think he wanted me to hold onto the fees until he did get his license back.  NO THANK YOU. 

Jul 20, 2020 09:33 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Thomas,

It is difficult to get into someone's head or their fixed viewpoint. I just move on.  

Jul 20, 2020 09:32 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

He can't afford to be a member? That's what I think.

Jul 20, 2020 06:14 AM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

This is why many agents still use combo lockboxes.

Jul 20, 2020 06:01 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

You pay the dues, use the tools!

Jul 20, 2020 05:40 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

WHY any buyer would hire such an agent is beyond me. I feel the same way when a seller hires a discount agent. You get discount services and it could cost them. I do get these calls and simply set it up for them. My goal is to sell my listing, 

Jul 20, 2020 05:22 AM
Rainmaker
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

So much for Broker Training

Jul 20, 2020 04:41 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Someone is not doing the job and taking time to get educated to help clients. The MLS is an essential part of our business.

Jul 19, 2020 10:57 PM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I talked with an agent today that is IN the MLS she just didn't get her key co-op'd.  Well today wasn't the day I could pop over and let her in my listing. Bad for my clients, bad for her clients.  Tomorrow I'm having a little chat wtih her broker.

Jul 19, 2020 09:23 PM
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate - St. George, UT
So Utah Residential, Referral & Relocation REALTOR

Shortcut...tut-tut!

 

Jul 20, 2020 06:02 PM
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Adam Feinberg
ANCHOR ASSOCIATES - Manhattan, NY
NYC Condo, Co-op, and Townhouse specialist

We don't have an MLS in NYC. That said, I see agents cutting corners all the time, and it reminds me why my business has been growing.

Aug 16, 2020 07:28 AM
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Jon Quist
REALTY EXECUTIVES ARIZONA TERRITORY - Tucson, AZ
Tucson's BUYERS ONLY Realtor since 1996

Arrgh! Redfin? Well, to me that would be a RED FLAG! I know, too easy, right?

Aug 13, 2020 07:39 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Incompetence would be my guess, followed by "are you even licensed bro?"

Jul 21, 2020 08:33 AM