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Hopefully the TX Brokers will respond to this, but I don't believe that the listing agent can compel you to use a certain lender and I don't believe the law allows you to pick an appraiser. So you need to contact your broker, possibly Legal, get Statute handy and then tell the agents broker that you're going to file a complaint against every single one of them if they don't get real. Hold their feet to the fire.
BUT FIRST. Make sure your client really wants this home. Because the way somebody does something is the way they will do everything, and the worst case scenario may actually be that you get under contract with these people.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Mimi Foster
Colorado Springs, CO
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
5,439,573
I'd take this up with your broker in charge to run some interference. Part of what you have to sort out is whether those demands are coming from the listing agent or the agent's client... the client can ask for anything they want. But it might mean they don't get their house sold (at least not to your client).
No one can insist on a specfic appraiser... buyers and lenders don't select them... the lender puts in an order for an appraisal and also does not "select" a specific appraiser. This alone would have me wondering if they know the house is overpriced.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Ricardo Mello
Manhattan, NY
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
5,593,751
Since you're both brokers and there is no recourse there, I would reach out to someone at the Texas REC. This is not only unacceptable behavior, it's unethical.
I have actually had buyers, who on their own, decided to present their Offers directly to the sellers...and the sellers had never received the Offer from their agent.
Good luck!
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,724,798
If you have a fiduciary with your Buyer, that fiduciary probably overrides any NAR COE or other "rules" that keep you from contacting the Seller directly.
As others advised, contact the Broker of the listing agent. If that fails, get legal advice about contacting the Seller directly.
Also, if the Listing Agent is demanding a "certain lender and appraiser", that may violate the law. "Wanting" is one thing; requiring is another. See a real estate attorney.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Teri Pacitto
Westlake Village, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
1,290,835
Huh??? Does Texas have a State Realtors Association? In MA our State Association has a free legal hotline where we can ask legal advice. But I think you should go to the managing broker of your office. No one can compel your client to use a particular bank or loan type AND your buyer has the right to have their own home inspection.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
5,217,728
Sounds like this LA is being unrealistic. While you cannot contact the seller they is no issue if the buyer reaches out to the seller.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob Force (REALTOR®)
Mount Airy, MD
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
4,822,537
A broker-to-broker discussion should take place. It appears this is likely appropriate at this time. Good luck.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
3,080
I failed to mention that I am a broker and so is she. She’s known all over town for doing such things as this.
The reason I posted this question is because I keep thinking, “ is there something I am missing.”
Sure wish that Texas would ad to the contract that a seller has to reject or counter in writing and sign it. There are a lot of people in this area doing the exact same thing. It’s my understanding that this one in particular does this so that people in love with a home will just come use her for both sides. Everyone in town knows she does this sort of thing but she continues to get away with it.
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
3,417,759
I would be up frot with my buyer. I would then contact the managing broker of that office. FIrst, they can not make you use any specific lender. Just like you cant make their seller sign your offer. Keep all communication in writing and make the offer yuor buyer wants and that protects them
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
940,699
I'd mail a copy of the offer to listing agents broker. Check with your broker. Sellers are not required to initial offers or provide proof that they have seen offers here.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
720,597
You have a lot going on here. But I can only answer you based on Arizona rules and regulations. Some rules may be universal.
1. You may have a rule that says that listing broker MUST present the offer in 24 hours. You may have the right to request the seller's signature as received. If not, inform the listing agent that YOU will be presenting the offer yourself directly to the seller. Your buyer may present the offer to the seller directly without even the agents present.
2. LA cannot demand anything - period. Certainly not an old inspection - that would be stupid, and cannot force the lender to use a specific appraiser. The answer is NO to everything.
So setup a meeting with the seller.
Maybe it's time you get your Dept of RE involved as well as your association, and perhaps an attorney.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
2,887,775
If you are up to it, engage this. However, finish what you start....To help you have courage & faith, know that she is begging to be stopped and is bound by these behaviors until then...Find your footing (objectivity) & then enter-in
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Margaret Scott
Odessa, TX
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,878,938
Seems like she is pushing you & your offer away. Think of it as a counter & don't stop. Say ok to the closing even if you don't think it will happen.
She can't make you use any lender, it is your buyers choice. She also can't make you use an old inspection. Per our contract, your buyer is entitled to their own.
Seems like she is pushing for a quick close. Possibly loosing the listing? Just pushing you for the optimum for the seller?
Don't give up keep going like it never happened. Counter back.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
1,513,143
Someone needs to take Ethics again.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
5,608,964
For me, with no other details, I would advise my clients to move on! For snicks, I would follow the proerty. Chances are it will be available after your clients are settled in their new home. Then, I might call the sponsoring broker with a heads-up!
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
3,460,060
There is no perfect solution ... this kind of crap takes place in all markets. What you are missing is that this kind of crap does take place and little, if anything, can be done ... even if/when complaints get filed.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
560,136
New mls rules just recently passed by nar allow buyer agents to demand a confirmation from the seller that the offer was presented. Check out the rules, they are on your side.
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Clay R. Seay
Saint Augustine, FL
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
921,504
It is confusing to me that any agent in the business would think this outcome is the design of the listing agent.
Only those seated at the dining room table know what was agreed upon when the agent agreed to assist the owner in selling this house.
I also would tell a buyer agent to 'go pound sand' when a 'prove it' demand is delivered.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
3,386,758
Be the first to report her if you suspect she is not presenting an offer. Honestly, how can she expect you to get to a lender to close a loan that quick if she won't even have her clients counter the offer.
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,767,113
Margaret, unless Texas is a lot different than VA, she can't require you to use any of her preferred vendors. This might be one for arbitration if she doesn't relent.
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,499,664
Lots of good advice here. Key is how badly your client wants this house. An accepted offer will be the beginning of more limitations, demands and stipulations from that renegade broker.
As much of a bother that it is, you should follow up with a complaint to both your board, if she is a Realtor, and the licensing authority.
Be sure to keep good written notes so that you will have no problem in documenting your complaints..
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
788,953
You could escalate this to the board & put a complaint in with the state.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
1,763,323
Illegal for a seller or their agent to force you to use a specific lender. Based on all you have written, it may be time to have a sit-down with his broker with your broker present.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
2,234,615
You need to report the listing agent to the local board and real estate commission.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
75,476
Agree with Nina Hollander!
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
779,771
During the last recession, we had some agents require a pre approval with a specific lender in order to present, but they could not compel the buyer to use this lender for their purchase. If you have concerns, you could contact the managing broker directly.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,046,390
I'm very late to this question and as my answers have already been given Debe Maxwell, CRS & Candice A. Donofrio I don't have anything helpful to add.. best of luck Margaret Scott
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Jane Turney
Allentown, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,071,336
No kidding?
I cannot believe it.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
1,598,552
I could not believe it, that coudl be.
Agree with all answers.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
5,585,189
this is why all of our clients have an attorney.... and that agreement is subject to review by the attorney.... there's no point in haggling with a brain-dead broker...
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
1,713,581
This is why you pay a broker.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
5,774,223
Margaret,
We agree with Candice A. Donofrio , and Nina Hollander , as well as the rest of the wise voices that have givern their advice. A.
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Minot, ND
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
979,801
Margaret, it is difficult to deal with other agents/brokers who do not follow the rules, especially when you don't what their actions to affect your buyers ability to purchase the home of their dreams. Lots of great advice here.
In regards to what the LA wants, I am sure none of that is in writing on the offer, other than the COE date, so I would just continue on with the transaction normally, if you get the offer accepted, and not worry about using the LA's lender or an old inspection.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
509,499
Margaret,
I think the problem is there's no way of knowing whether she presented the offer to the seller or not. It's like your word against hers. I would pick the phone and call TAR legal hotline.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
425,743
I can close a jumbo loan purchase in 15 days why can your lender not perform?
An old inspection if not useful for a lender, lender must use the appraiser from the secondary source and be removed from the whole process. Using a specific appraiser is a big violation and fines.
My thought is listing wants to control or double end the deal. I also suspect the seller and listing think the house won't appraise for sales price. If your buyer has extra cash and the desire dream to move forward perhaps you don't stop them from knocking on the seller's door
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
935,660
So put an end to it once and for all! This kind of behavior gives us all a bad image. Somehow the sellers need to be aware that their agent's modus operandi is not in their best interest. Sounds like the LA is trying to line up his/her own buyer.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
823,484
I like Richard Weeks answer.
Being a Md Realtor, I am not aware of TX law; but in MD Realtors association has a free legal hotline.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,227,682
Depends on the market. Do they have other offers? But I'd have my broker call her broker to check to see if the offer was presented.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
6,816,302
You may want to insist on presenting the offer in person.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
519,824
Request any response, even a rejection be in writing. That way you know the seller has seen it. Include a cover letter stating why you need the time and terms you need and how they are "customary" as part of the offer. The seller decides what they accept, not their over the top broker.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
472,936
Here we can request to be present when thenofders are presented so you can be certain your clients’ offer is presented to the sellers. I think that would be my first step if your client wants the property.
Secondly, this sounds like it toes the line on RESPA.
So I think checking in with a RE attorneybin your area is a good measure as well as the TX RE Commission.
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
433,458
In your shoes I would contact the listing broker to make sure that my offer had been rejected by the clients and not the agent.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
8,289,355
1,653,572
In CA, you can request to be present for the offer presentation and it has to be accommodated. Can you call her Broker?
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,551,690
NAR has passed a change to their COE that requires agents to send a confirmation of presentation of offer when requested. It'll be a while before it trickles down to the local association level though.
If she's doing this to that many people, I'd say an anonymous tip to the CFPB is in order. Requiring a specific lender is a big no-no.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,587,127
I'd take it to the State RE commission Margaret Scott .
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
6,086,135
I had a LA do this earlier this year. Our contracts states the LA MUST present all offers, but don't have to show they did. Pretty silly, think the rules need to change here.
5,324,805
158,388
There are several places where you can file a complaint or grievance:
First, it sounds like she is violating at least one NAR Standard of Practice by not submitting the offer.
Secondly, if this person has a reputation, perhaps others would join you in filing a complaint with the local Association of Realtors or licensing board. And even if not, you can file a complaint based on your current curcumstance.
Best wishes!
3,986,529
4,434,277