5,249,439
And there is reason #1 why I won't do open houses! And let's not forget it's probably also a good reason for sellers not to FSBO!
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
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Gloria Valvasori, Accr...
Mississauga, ON
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Allie Angeloni
Oro Valley, AZ
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Christine Kankowski No...
Poway, CA
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Anita Clark
Warner Robins, GA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
2,699,407
The danger of holding open houses alone.
If she had been carrying concealed, she probably couldn't draw on 3 people. But she could have shot the back windshield out of their car as they drove away. That would make it easier for the cops to locate it.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Tony and Suzanne Marri...
Scottsdale, AZ
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Anthony Kirlew
Gilbert, AZ
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, ...
Scottsdale, AZ
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
5,428,313
Thank goodness there was going to be an open house after her showing or that door bell may not have rung during her showing, Jeff.
Just WOW! I don't know if a gun would have helped at that point - nor a second host but, thankfully the door bell scared them off.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
917,393
Guns rarely help anything. It's good to have someone with you during Open Houses... or not do them at all.
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Allie Angeloni
Oro Valley, AZ
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX
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JoAnn Moore
Georgetown, DE
2,227,228
Don't host open houses.
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
1,865,988
Nothing other than not have an open house. Another person being there would not have helped either.
A guard with a gun at the exterior front door? That's an idea.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Barbara Todaro
Franklin, MA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX
8,080,907
Personal safety should be a high priority for every agent.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Allie Angeloni
Oro Valley, AZ
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX
5,584,078
tammy always has someone with her at an open house.... the men do them alone.... none of them carry cash beyond $20.... credit cards...atm cards...
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
509,499
I don't do open houses often and if I do I have someone else with me. In my previous brokerage there was a discussion that an agent did an open house and got a lot of traffic. At the end of the day he found that many of the seller's belongings were missing including a laptop.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
773,005
Agent was just doing her job, that's a shame that she had to encounter people with bad intentions. What kind of criminals drive a BMW anyway?
I actually caught & got my wallet back from someone who pickpocketed me in NYC. If they had a gun I wouldn't have chased them down & got it back, so I don't think there's much she could've done here except be grateful it wasn't more than money lost.
I do all our Open Houses.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
823,490
Not hold open houses.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Peter Testa
Danbury, CT
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
6,620,383
Too much flash does attract folks who want to take away your fancy trinkets and many agents tend to walk around with plenty of things to steal on their person and in their pockets.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Allie Angeloni
Oro Valley, AZ
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
809,308
That article doesn't make it sound like it was an open house. It makes it sound like it was a scheduled showing. -K
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
69,794
In college, I worked for an armored car company on the weekends. We were trained that if we were ever held up coming out of a business with money and the person demanded the money, we were to throw the bag as far as we could away from us and the robber(s). The robbers attention will clearly be on the money, because that is what they want. Those couple seconds of distraction would allow you to either take cover behind the armored truck (because we always parked by the front doors), or draw your weapon and fire.
Never hand a robber a purse or wallet. Throw it at them and make sure it goes over their head or way off to their side. As soon as you release it, turn tail and run. If your on the open street, zig zag while you run away. No matter what the movies show, it's really, really hard to hit a moving target at a distance, (even at 10 to 20 yards) with a handgun. Most street criminals are not proficient at aiming and firing a weapon anyways. Wanna better your chances of getting hit, run away in a straight line.
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Ron Tissier
Atlanta, GA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
290,969
Well, five things come to mind immediately Jeff Pearl. One, is to have left my purse in the trunk of my car when I first walked in with my folder and/or briefcase. Two, is to back out of the house the way I came in, knowing that 'hearing voices' was 'not in my head' - because I knew I had not let these folks in. Three, I would have my fingers on 911, and letting them know I'm in a suspicious and scary situation. Four, I would look at the vehicles either in front of the house, in the driveway, or across the street and start writing down license plates. Five, I would hide behind dense landscaping or another house, if that was possible, just to see who exited the house. In a Perfect World, the squad cars would be driving up momentarily.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
719,561
For starters, not do open houses in questionable neighborhoods. And two, what we talked about here in AZ, is to install a discreet camera at the open house. And three, a one button push on your smartphone that sends an alarm to 911.
The gun thing is a very different thing. In a purse, makes no sense. That's the first thing they'll take. It has to be 'on you'. And the biggest caveat of them all - you have to be able to shoot first and be trained to do just that, it's likely very too late 'after' you are shot yourself. And that my friends brings a whole new reality to your life and livelihood if this ever happens.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
5,773,924
Jeff,
Wow, I am speechless. I have no idea what she could have done except for what Fred Griffin suggested. A
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
423,723
Sounds like the three men were inside the house before she arrived, or broke in other than front door.
#1 have a buddy - most lenders will co-sit an open house if you let them co-share the leads
#2 camera with a sign on the door that video recording is in progress. A realtor can buy a portable camera for $200 today
#3 gun in her purse would have been stolen by the 3 perpetrators, if concealed maybe Fred Griffin 's idea to shoot out back window of their BMW yes 3 crooks in a beemer would work, IF and only if she practiced shooting and has a calm head not to shoot someone in this crowded townhouse area.
#4 don't go deep or up into the house without a second easy exit. She was waiting in the kitchen and heard people in the other rooms? Open front door early, wait for backup to turn on lights, wait on the stoop for the "clients" if you don't know the clients don't go without a bodyguard. Article doesn't say how the appointment was set up- or if her real appointment showed up
#5 run when you smell smoke, dial 911 when ducking. when she heard noise was time to run. Instinct works if you are paying attention. don't carry a bunch of stuff, leave the designer purse at home, carry cell in pocket left, keys in a pocket right, gun on ankle, mace in hand that appears like a lipstick and have practiced with the mace... most of all be ready to run.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
4,800,282
I'm not sure what she could have done differently short of having a security guard.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
1,643,139
Wow so sad......I do not believe another gun would help.....
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,407,305
If I am showing a home I always lock the front door behind me.
I am not a fan of open homes, so my response to what to do differently is don't do them.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
921,504
Proper protocol is never do an Open House alone.
The the assistant and agent should not be in the same room.
When i do an open house Sasquatch is either out front or in the outside living area...always in line of sight. A purposed open house will have additional staff to capitalize the exit.
Criminals are increasingly brazen. There are NO Guarantees.
These crimes are opportunistic, reduce the appearance of opportunity. 'Smile, you are being recorded for training and quality control purposes may be beneficial in short staffing situations.
Never do an open house alone.
Most certainly open houses can and should be part of an agents lead generations strategy.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Steve Higgins
Kelowna, BC
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Allie Angeloni
Oro Valley, AZ
2,543,006
The best thing for us to do, if we need to have open houses, is to have company. I need to take my own advice.
And the question says "even if she had a gun in her person". My two cents -- putting a gun in a purse is never a good idea. The purse could get stolen (much more likely than getting held up at an open house). Also, she'd have to carry it everywhere, which most pocket-book carrying women do not do. If she had a gun, it should have been on her body somewhere in an easily accessible holster of some kind.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
2,827,935
Outings should be group events especially for women....
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
5,422,041
If you are going to do an open house, don't do it alone. Next, don't do them!
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,073,909
Fred Griffin nailed this one!
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
3,416,322
Not been there alone is first on my list. Second it should be on you, not in your purse. That includes being trained how to use it, self defense and most importance avoidance of these situations.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
577,850
Another good reason why I don't do open houses.... and if the Seller does request it I always have someone else with me...
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
2,240,080
I rarely have cash on me
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
637,484
I don't do open houses alone, always an associate with me. And I'm not a gun toting kind of gal. I can scream and have, and can run pretty fast. Never carry cash, maybe $20 or so. Luckily, no one has ever personally confronted me to rob me, so I don't know how I would react.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,413,240
I am glad that she was not harmed.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,525,616
That's why I prefer to do open houses in gated communities.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,321,670
Jeff Pearl - open houses are not safe in few areas. I am not sure what I'd do when this happens.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,530,294
Kept the gun ON her!
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
117,135
I always have an extra person when I do an open house, but I try my very best NOT to host them. I allow other agents to host for me if they wish on vacant homes.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
981,743
We have not held an open house in years. Safety for my agents and myself is too important. Won't need a gun.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
448,718
One of the reasons I do not care to hold Opens. As a former bank employee, she did everything right, the way it should be done. She is alive and that is the important part.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,600,631
Not do open houses.
They are robbing many of you of your time unless you are capturing some mad #'s of leads and converting them; this agent just got robbed twice.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,435,300
Wow, I t does sound like it was a showing, no cash at open houses so sad!
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
5,962,013
Being a REALTOR sure makes us a sitting duck for these crazy people.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,208,170
I just don't put myself in that position. I don't do open houses and I don't meet buyers at homes.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,466,257
Jeff Pearl A good reason for not doing open houses.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
4,434,227
I agree it is a a good idea to neverhost pens houses alone
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,988,138
Thre are safety practices that can be put in place. Doing open houses with another agent or a lender and making sure that the neighbors have an eye out are just a couple.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,257,833
All cash transaction, 100% EMD?
My brother in law's family was tricked in paying with gold bars(popular) and after closing the seller was really a property manager-realtor in HK. Well, that was 1950.
5,140,028
I get sick of hearing of this, people should have 2 people at open houses I think.
1,045,915
Additional people? could help maybe, professional criminals generally look for EASY.
Arm everyone everywhere? There are too many untrained or poorly trained people with guns already.
Option might include only allowing PRE -registered people to come to the semi Open House ;-)