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Rainmaker
1,112,058
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Is the location spectacular?
Did the homicides all occur at the same time?  (out of my warped curiosity)
Is there future development that could make this dirt valuable?
Can the property be connected to sewer?
If not, is there room for a new septic and leachfield?
Yadayadayada . . .
It MIGHT raise concerns. It might not.

Jan 30, 2018 09:47 AM
Rainmaker
5,585,039
Barbara Todaro
Retired...Mentoring Newbies - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

for the right price, everything is sellable..... it wouldn't matter in my area.... Whitey Bulger has bodies buried everywhere....in many, many towns.... 

Jan 30, 2018 10:54 AM
Ambassador
5,545,849
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

It's totally the buyers' call - hopefully they'll do the demo on that house! Get rid of the bad mojo!

Jan 30, 2018 09:36 AM
Rainmaker
2,558,207
Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co Notary Services retired RE Broker

Did they find the weapon and more importantly the killer? If they have not found the killer and all these murders occured on seperate occassions I do believe I'd pass on this one.

Jan 30, 2018 01:58 PM
Rainmaker
936,418
Jeff Pearl
Samson Properties / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

It's up to the buyers. i know some buyers that i worked with would feel right at home there.

Jan 30, 2018 01:51 PM
Rainer
140,660
Richard L. McKinney P.A.
Atlantic Shores Realty Expertise - Port St Lucie, FL
For Results that MOVE you on the Treasure Coast!

I would have absolutely zero concerns about my buyer purchasing that property or any other. As long as everything that must me disclosed, is disclosed, then there is no need to worry about it. For example, the fact that four homicides occurred there is not something that we need to disclose in Florida. But the septic issue and some of the other things mentioned should be disclosed.

I also might add that this also depends on the buyer. If the buyer is one of my normal, educated investors then there is never a concern. If the buyer is someone that I do not know then I will make sure to spend more time investigating and educating. But when it comes time to write it up, I have confidence that my client know what they are getting in to. 

Jan 30, 2018 11:40 AM
Rainmaker
8,231,386
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Nope. Could be an excellent investor opportunity.

Jan 30, 2018 09:54 AM
Rainmaker
564,544
Maria Sapio
Keller Williams of Central PA - Carlisle, PA
Real Estate Agent- Carlisle, PA. Mariasapio.com

I would have signatures on all paperwork confirming that the buyer was fully aware and in light of the information, has freely made the choice to purchase.

Jan 30, 2018 09:47 AM
Ambassador
6,762,243
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Rough neighborhood.

Depends on the buyer and what they were going to do with the property.

Jan 30, 2018 09:28 AM
Rainmaker
5,383,894
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

What Candice A. Donofrio said. At the right price there is a lid for every pot.

Jan 31, 2018 03:10 AM
Rainmaker
1,231,903
Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Ugh!

Jan 30, 2018 07:28 PM
Rainmaker
2,234,865
Debbie Laity
CinaJones Real Estate - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County

The part about the four homicides would have me checking with local law enforcement. I would want to know what it is about this property that attracts murderers. 

Jan 30, 2018 07:09 PM
Rainmaker
1,638,763
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® CRS,ABR,PSA,RCS-D, CFSP
Big Block LPT Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
Coastal San Diego, Veteran's & Retirees Services

Nope, there beliefs will guide them on that.

I showed a home with a triple homicide in it my first year in San Diego.

No, they didn't buy. :)

Jan 30, 2018 06:09 PM
Rainmaker
772,996
Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

We don't have to disclosed deaths or murders or suicides in our state.  But if I saw this ad, I would want to know more about how the murders happened.

Jan 30, 2018 05:44 PM
Rainmaker
5,343,399
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

I agree with Debe Maxwell, CRS totally a buyers call. I would definitely demo the house to rid the bad mojo!

Jan 30, 2018 05:42 PM
Rainmaker
3,988,144
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

It must be state law to disclose. I would want more details and would be Googling the address.

Jan 30, 2018 05:28 PM
Rainmaker
1,476,131
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

In California, multiple homicides would certainly be a disclosure item. If the buyer knows and buys, problem solved.

 

Jan 30, 2018 05:28 PM
Rainmaker
2,231,519
Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Run Forest run....

Jan 30, 2018 04:58 PM
Rainmaker
2,259,103
Michael J. Perry
Fathom Realty - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Value would be surpressed for a couple of different owners 

Jan 30, 2018 03:13 PM
Ambassador
2,190,594
Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living

Since they now know about it, it's entirely up to them to decide. 

Jan 30, 2018 01:59 PM
Ambassador
2,361,576
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Unless your buyer's believe in ghosts or bad karma, it's probably a simple disclosure issue.  Due diligence on the property being suitable for their purpose should be adequate. 

Jan 30, 2018 11:39 AM
Ambassador
2,129,906
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home again, home again...

Illinois law does not require disclosure of a murder... unless it's spectacular and would have made a big media splash.

Jan 30, 2018 11:06 AM
Rainmaker
554,600
Francine Viola
Coldwell Banker Evergreen Olympic Realty, Olympia WA - Olympia, WA
REALTOR®, In Tune with your Real Estate Needs

Yes I would have concerns!  I haven't seen a property description like this before - wow.

Jan 30, 2018 10:44 AM
Ambassador
2,717,193
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

      Florida law does NOT require homicides to be disclosed.  If you represent the Seller (fiduciary), you could damage them by disclosing the homicides. 

    As for the septic and the tear-down, let the Buyer's Home Inspector deal with those issues.

  To your question:  if it is MY buyer (fiduciary):

   I will disclose all of this in writing.  I will recommend a septic tank company or plumber inspect/issue a report on the "hole".  I will recommend a visit to Zoning, and to the Property Appraiser regarding tearing down an existing structure.

Jan 30, 2018 10:25 AM
Rainmaker
5,774,106
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Erika,

As long as everything is disclosed, and what Candice A. Donofrio said

Jan 30, 2018 09:51 AM
Rainmaker
784,340
Peter Testa
Kiwi Homes - Danbury, CT
PETER TESTA

Sounds good to me!

Jan 30, 2018 10:10 PM
Rainmaker
391,198
Mayra Espinosa Realtor San Mateo Pacifica Homes
Mayra Espinosa Broker- Realtor | Call 650-996-8961 - Pacifica, CA
San Mateo County Real Estate | Buy | Sell | Invest

If the all material facts are disclose to the buyer, and the price is right, I think the buyer is the one who should be concern about whether or not to buy this property. It may be a good investment moreover the buyer will have less competition due to the circumstances. 

Jan 30, 2018 09:23 PM
Rainmaker
3,986,529
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

It would depend on the client

Jan 30, 2018 08:23 PM
Rainmaker
2,871,051
Richard Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

For the right price....

Jan 30, 2018 04:36 PM
Rainmaker
577,950
Gloria Valvasori, Accredited Senior Agent
BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS REAL ESTATE SIGNATURE SERVICE - Mississauga, ON
REAL Experience | REAL Commitment | REAL Results!

I would provide all the information my client needed to make an informed decsion, due their due diligence, and let them decide... I would voice my concern, provide all the information, but let them decide on their own.

Jan 30, 2018 01:26 PM
Rainmaker
1,525,616
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

I think I would run as fast as I could in the other direction.

Jan 30, 2018 01:01 PM
Rainer
117,135
Christine Kankowski North SD and Temecula
House Match Inc - Poway, CA
Excellent Sales and Property Management

Not really, If this is what the buyers are looking for- land or rebuild. 

 

Jan 30, 2018 12:34 PM
Rainer
424,993
Caroline Gerardo
Licensed in 20 states - Newport Beach, CA
C. G. Barbeau the Loan Lady nmls 324982

It sounds like this is a raw land deal. Getting multiple mobile homes legally on one parcel in California makes the subject property only a hard money loan, it's not a duplex triplex in the eyes of FHA or Fannie Freddie. Look up the news about the homicides, as your buyers will do. I'm guessing the murders happened at once aren't you Candice A. Donofrio  or this is a bad location in the line of drug dealers and something awful. I would have buyer check that meth wasn't manufactured there, and get someone with a metal detector to check for what else is buried. Assume they dumped corrosive or bad things in the septic and rebuild accordingly...  Sounds like a murder mystery adventure. If the price is cheap enough, and you weigh the costs the buyer makes an informed choice

Jan 30, 2018 12:18 PM
Rainmaker
613,494
Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Tampa, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Tampa Home Buyers

I don't care if state law says that I don't need to disclose...I do disclose everything.

It is a "material fact" that most of my buyers would be turned off.

It is not up to me to decide if it is a concern or not...it is up to the buyer.

Eve

Jan 30, 2018 11:05 AM
Rainmaker
921,504
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

"Huge land where you can bu**......."

they found four.

With a back story like that, I see it perfect for a boys adventure camp. Those campfires will be terrifying.

Jan 30, 2018 09:36 AM
Ambassador
3,446,656
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

As Candice A. Donofrio commented ... not necessarily. I would do my research and perform due diligence. If all pass the "test" and the buyers are fully informed ... why not. 

I am curious about the homicides.  Research would reveal the facts to share with the prospective buyer(s).

Jan 31, 2018 08:20 AM
Rainmaker
1,874,708
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Complete teardown, burn the 'domicile' where the attacks occured. Sell the land.

Jan 31, 2018 04:51 AM
Rainmaker
4,322,295
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Erika Rae Albert, Austin Real Estate Expert - now if they don't mind, I will not!

Jan 30, 2018 11:19 PM
Rainmaker
4,273,331
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

Depends on the client and that it has been disclosed...

Jan 30, 2018 10:09 PM
Ambassador
3,223,032
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

no

Jan 30, 2018 08:44 PM
Rainer
352,976
Teri Pacitto
Compass - Westlake Village, CA
Real Estate, Your Style...Your Home...My Specialty

Depends on price, location and future ROI.  Let the buyer decide after full disclosure.  4 at once or ?  Inquiring minds.

Jan 30, 2018 08:16 PM
Rainmaker
1,713,581
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Depends on the price.

Jan 30, 2018 03:39 PM
Rainmaker
1,269,043
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Across from East Palo Alto police station. Every kind of police record, break in .... Bought it for $190K 5 years ago sold for $950K 12 offers(7 cash).

Same in Redwood City across the street from Atherton.  All million dollar shacks. 

People move to places they can afford......

 

Jan 30, 2018 10:15 AM
Rainmaker
5,174,110
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

As long as they were aware of the situation (in writing) and that is the property they wanted to buy I would not have any concerns.

Jan 30, 2018 09:41 AM
Rainmaker
1,545,944
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I'd want to know about the homicides!  Was it a gang house and these were killings from rival gangs?  Or was it one of those nut jobs who goes across 5 towns killing his ex-wife and her family.  Were they tossed down the septic hole?

Jan 31, 2018 10:46 AM
Rainmaker
1,466,257
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Erika Rae Albert, Austin Real Estate Expert If my buyer found this property useful and provides an acceptable ROI, why would I be concerned?

Jan 31, 2018 07:02 AM
Rainmaker
5,553,777
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Not sure about disclosure laws in your state! Can think of better wording!

Jan 31, 2018 06:03 AM
Rainmaker
4,434,277
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

yes

Jan 31, 2018 06:01 AM
Rainmaker
3,074,716
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

Barbara Todaro nailed this one!

Jan 31, 2018 05:01 AM
Rainmaker
720,177
Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

I see... not your typical sale.... obviously, there's a reason this property is of interest to the buyer... for the buyer to decide at the end of the day.

Property has bad karma for sure, but that's has nothing to do with us.

Jan 31, 2018 04:55 AM