544,164
What's more important, the cost of the money or the availability of the money?
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Inna Ivchenko
Encino, CA
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Barbara Todaro
Franklin, MA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
140,660
I have had many dealings both customer related and personal with private lenders. It all boils down to the borrowers available options. Your particular deal of about 10% is par for the road for hard money. If it's your only option and the is very little hassle with the application process then go for it.
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John Mosier
Prescott, AZ
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,107,768
John, that's ridiculous-- no reason you should be expected to participate. There's a guy in your area we've worked with for 15 years. I'll message you his contact information.
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
1,872,828
You either do the deal or you don't. The guy with the money has the upper hand.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
2,230,538
I have never worked with one.
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
5,519,962
Honestly, if the buyer needs private financing and they're willing to pay 10% interest (the $10K), then whether it's reasonable is up to the buyer.
I might also suggest getting quotes from other private lenders.
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
6,736,377
My investment business started with private lenders, fortunately I never had to pay a premium like this. Some charged higher interest, some a piece of the profit, but all worked well with me and helped me to grow.
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
3,417,356
That is like 10 points and that is crazy. Here the average is 3 points and 12% interest on hard money. It could go up to 18% for more risky or a new investor. The highest points i have seen are 5
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
5,358,043
Easy... I have no such experience. At the end of the day what is or isn't reasonable depends on the value of owning the property to the buyer.
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
65,428
Network with multiple lenders, see what they can offer you
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
3,074,716
I would if I had but I haven't!
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
542,913
Sorry, I don't have any experience in that area. I'm glad Candice A. Donofrio was able to help you though!
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
2,714,298
In my experience, it's always a higher rate, and/or a lower LTV. Not 10 points up front. Yikes!
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
1,543,754
Seems about right for a hard money loan (even cheap), but I don't have much experience with private lenders.
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
5,774,106
John,
Looks like Candice A. Donofrio has an answer for you.. All the best. A
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
602,081
Keep shopping it. This sounds unreasonably high to me.
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Sean Casey
Newark, DE
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
5,528,481
Sounds like you should keep shopping!
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
935,288
Some of them will try to take advantage of people that can't qualify for traditional financing. I would shop around. Here we have "Farm Credit of Virginia's" for example that do land loans. Try to negotiate the fee, pass the fee on to the buyer, or shop around for another lender. Is the final value of the property worth investing the $10,000.00 in?
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
987,719
Depends on your end game and how reasonable your end game is...if paying that premium is your only or best option in acquiring this property.
(After reading your other comment, I'm guessing that I don't have the whole story.)
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
8,203,970
Compare his offer with your alternatives. I would talk with a local banker.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
767,623
Hard money lenders set their terms. The buyer can either take it or leave it. If there wasn't a market for those types of loans at those fees, they wouldn't be offering it.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
3,440,419
When I look at "reasonable" my first thought is ... depends. If that is the only way you can get the home sold ... and the buyer is okay with the premium ... then it would lean towards being reasonable as it was agreed to.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
4,770,284
Over my career in the business, "owner finacing ' has been rather limited(representing buyers or sellers). Each "deal" has its own merits.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
5,585,039
Dave has the right thoughts on this situation....
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
1,466,257
John Mosier Hard money lenders charge whatever they can get. Asking you to pay the premium is unheard of in my area. I would walk. He may call you back with better terms.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
1,713,581
I don't use those types of lenders in my business model.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
2,862,401
I did private lending and the biggest dynamic is that they/we move at our own speed and arrive at our own values. End result: take it or leave it
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
921,504
How reasonable?
Not enough data.
However, that $10,000 is not uncommon in private lending situations.
More money is made through lending than facilitating the buying and selling of real estate.
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
4,434,277
6,037,611
5,251,304
3,988,144
My experience is that private lenders earn a premium simply because they can charge it and get it. Other lenders generally won't touch it. Weigh the options and bite the bullet.
1,654,812
So basically 17%? it is regular for locals. Depends on the lender, but it is from 8 to 24% and up, depends how short/long, how much money loaned, etc.
3,986,473