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They probably do not have the original mortgage either. Ask for documentation to prove their is a balloon. My hunch, they don't have any!
You also might contact the title company who closed the loan and ask them to search public records for a copy of the recorded document. Good luck!
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Tony and Suzanne Marri...
Scottsdale, AZ
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Olga Simoncelli
New Fairfield, CT
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,988,684
YES, OCWEN needs to verify, as Michael Jacobs said.
I would also verify with your former servicer that THEY are the ones who actually sent you to a new servicer (OCWEN) and to whom they sent you. That scam is rearing its ugly head right now - could be that your servicer didn't sell your paper and someone is attempting to scam you.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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JoAnn Moore
Georgetown, DE
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
4,957,422
Michael Jacobs has one response. Was the mortgage instrument filed in your county courthouse? Perhaps you can retrieve it that way.
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Theo Shaw
Evanston, IL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Byron K . Jones
Coatesville, PA
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,477,776
Why not ask OCWEN to "prove" it?
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
619,354
The key form you are seeking is the Promissory "Note" contained in your original loan documents. When Greenpoint sold/transferred the servicing rights to Ocwen, Ocwen essentially "bought the Note" and is tasked with enforcing the terms contained in that document (i.e. Ocwen cannot make up their own terms once they acquire the servicing rights). I recommend contacting Ocwen directly and requesting a copy of the Note. Balloon payments are rarely enforced nowadays and are typically accompanied with other options (i.e. refinance the loan into a brand new 30 year term). Given the low interest rates currently, you might find that to be a suitable alternative. Feel free to contact me at 619-200-8031 or jgordon@amerifirst.us if you would like an objective assessment of your options. Either way, hope things work out for you! Thank you Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor,CRS,e-Pro for the mention!
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Theo Shaw
Evanston, IL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
1,223,422
This is EXACTLY the reson one needs to STAY with same mortgage servicer which does NOT get SOLD. We went through a loan broker who made $ through selling to another one so on through eternity. The last mortgage company stated that they did not receive the mortage and threaten to impose late fees. I had a statement from Bank of Santa C* manager that the cheques were CASHED by them and they need to keep their records Straight. Two months later I got another threaten letter saying the same. I sent them a photo copy of cashed cheque by them and mailed in a cashier cheque for balance of mortgage in a package with a brick. In my letter I stated good ROCK to you. I will send you more bricks if you are out giving us this no-nonsense. This bank in NJ never even apologized that there was any wrong doing.
One needs to retain HUD1, loan docs even after getting paid off. My parents had a S&L mortgage book it printed out balance, interest until it was paid off showing "0" balance. That is a legal proof what you have paid off.
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Sam Shueh
San Jose, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
359,587
Ocwen should be able to produce the appropriate documentation if they are the ones stating there is a balloon. You can also call the title/escrow company that you signed with and see if they have a copy. Any title company should be able to do a search for you but typically, only the deed or mortgage is recorded. You are in need of the note so you can verify the terms. With a little luck, the title/escrow company that you closed with kept a copy.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,656,058
Title attorney or title company may be of help.
And/or, demand that OCWEN produce the documents to justify this claim.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
5,582,560
they need to provide a note ..... michael jacobs is right...
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
404,686
In my county we have an online database I can search for the deeds and loan documents. If you can't search online, then you probably would want to go to the county courthouse to search for the desired documents. I couldn't find anything for LA County with a quick Google search.
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Theo Shaw
Evanston, IL
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,011,298
Make THEM produce the document. I would have that demand sent certified mail from my attorney on their letterhead.
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,461,127
Contact the lender...Greenpoint I think is still around.
Ask Jason E. Gordon
Ocwen is the worst! They typically have all the shortsales these days.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
385,525
Ocwen is required by law to provide you a copy of the promissory note within 30 days of written request for FREE. Write to them, call it in and fax it to them. phone 800-746-2936 address: 16661 Worthington Rd Ste 100
West Palm Beach, FL 33409 fax number 866-501-1610
If you have trouble reading the ins and outs send it to me I would be happy to read it and advice for free
What is interest rate and what is your monthly payment? Easy to tell if you were making a principle and interest payment or interest only Jerry Caldwell
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Susan McCall - - Compa...
Portland, OR
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
2,119,969
When You said Ocwen , I said oh no !!!
Try the Courthouse , it should be recorded there .
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael J. Perry
Lancaster, PA
4,702,899
I would ask them to provide the proof.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,800,052
I have no clue.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
55,673
Check with the local court clerk's office. Many times the mortgage is recorded with the note. Also, see if you have a site where you can download deeds,and records.
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
4,939,410
I'm going with Michael Jacobs answer.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
974,640
I'm with Michael Jacobs on this - proof is in the pudding
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
312,345
You had me at OCWEN. Caroline Geraldo gave you the tools. Do each of the items, every week for 4 weeks. If you don't get an answer in this amount of time, get your financing going and get out of that loan. They are required to do all of the above, but that doesn't mean they will. In the mean time they could ruin your credit rating and will do what they want anyway. Sounds like they want your money. Don't even think this corporation plays fair, at least they didn't in the past. I am speaking from experience with a number of clients I had. Good luck!
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
6,172,539
Demand that those characters at ocwen produce the original docs.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
1,817,710
County recorder can do it for $$. I forgot what it is a page, like $2 here.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,711,126
Two really fun companies to do business with. They need to be able to prove they have documents to back this up.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Jerry Caldwell
Santa Monica, CA
1,231,736
As others have said, request documentation from OCWEN.
Another explanation might be that your loan was amortized as 30 year loan with balloon payment in March 2018.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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JoAnn Moore
Georgetown, DE
7,561,814
Look at the recorded documents.
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Mary Yonkers
Erie, PA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,319,013
Michael Jacobs has a great response, Jerry Caldwell.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
3,272,075
You have great answers here. Get a copy of proof from them.
A deep title search may have related documents hyperlinked to the title report. Good luck.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
7,380
Thank you all for the good advice, encouragement and in some cases sly sarcasm. I do appreciate it, all of it, and value the kindness behind many of your comments, even offers to help! Thank you!
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
225,515
I suggest you call OCWEn and have them send you proof of the Note. If they tell you this, they must have a record of it. You can also go to the County recorders office and look up the mortgage and maybe the other documents or go online to see if you can view it,
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,987,876
In our state these documents are recorded at the Register of Deeds office. Have you tried seeing if it is public record?
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,525,610
I think Libby Cousins has a good answer.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
541,525
The mortgage will be recorded in the courthouse. The promissory note will not. The closing attorney either has it archived or destroyed by now.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
884,617
3,725,414
Maybe the title company - at least if it was with a bank or mortgage broker. Otherwise, you could try your local recorder of deeds.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,140,747
In my state (Georgia) the security deed is recorded and a matter of public record. It is generally speaking recorded directly following the warranty deed.
1,706,910
3,071,289
4,433,877
3,986,161