3,071,489
A Buyer Broker Agreement with a Buyer is the equivalent of a Listing Agreement with a Seller. While a BBA is still "optional" in AZ - we don't spend time working with Buyers who are unwilling to sign the BBA - we refer them out.
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Tony and Suzanne Marri...
Scottsdale, AZ
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, ...
Scottsdale, AZ
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Chris Ann Cleland
Gainesville, VA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
1,574,666
I have never used them in my 15 years... if someone is dissatisfied with using you then best they walk. If they stay, you will get referrals and future business when you do your job well! To me, I will take a chance on my service quality and less on forced loyalty.
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Jim Cheney
Santa Rosa, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
5,112,471
Personally, I'm not a big believer in them. I sold a ton of real estate in NYC in the 90's where we had no official buyer agency. At the end of the day, as far as I'm concerned if a buyer under an agency agreement wants "out," what are you going to do? Hold them hostage to the agreement? I think not. Their only value at the point an offer is being made is to ensure all parties to the contract understand you are representing the buyer's sole and best interests.
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Jill Sackler
Long Beach, NY
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Dr. Karen Lewis, Broke...
Fort Lauderdale, FL
1,553,330
Ask any of the folks chiming in that say they don't use them, believe in them or need them if they make their Sellers sign a listing agreement?
If they do... why?
If they do not need a buyers agreement, why do they need a listing agreement?
Do they treat their buyers different than their sellers? Why?
Do they value their sellers more than their buyers? Why?
Is their time less valuable with buyers than sellers? Why?
I've used one with almost every buyer I've worked with in 18 years. I say "almost every" because the one I neglected to do so burned me and would not have been able to had I not gone against my policy of all buyers sign one or I refer them to another agent.
I use them quite successfully. To each their own, but I think this document separates the professional business owners from the amateurs. I make no apologies for this opinion-it is my opinion; my clients signed contracts when I performed at their weddings, painted their houses and when I helped/help them buy or sell houses. The written agreement keeps honest people honest and all involved with sharp memory of what was agreed to.
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Michelle E Davis
Cleveland, OH
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
5,583,328
most in my office do not have buyers sign an agreement....if the connection is there, one is not needed and the buyer is loyal.... that's what we experience....
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Jill Sackler
Long Beach, NY
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
3,383,384
There are duties that the agents must live up to, and I'm guessing he won because the agent didn't live up to those, from the sound of your comment to Ron and Alexandra Seigel .
I think every buyer's agent should use a Buyer Brokerage Agreement. If nothing else, it is a great lie detector to root out a buyer's intentions to use whoever they want or will answer the phone. Those are not the types of buyers I would ever want to work with. They flinch at the BBA, I ask them why I should be loyal to them if they are not loyal to me?
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,416,038
I find that too many buyers see a home online, email the site they see it on and get paired with an agent who says sign this. The next thing they know they hired a buyer agent who is not read, willing or able to do what the buyer wants or needs to find a home.
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Cheryl Dukes . . . . ....
Atlanta, GA
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Eve Alexander
Tampa, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,582,184
I don't use a buyer broker agreement. Unfortunately they are not that common in my market.
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,784,566
It is always important to remember core contract basics: 1. Contracts are only as good as the people behind them 2. The intent of the agreement. Summing it up...it is the spirit behind any law, contract or point that matters
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
1,513,143
If we are taking care of the client there is no need for one.
I left as a buyers agent as the Broker wanted them signed and with many years of sales will not use it.
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Brenda Mayette
Glenville, NY
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
716,529
Kinda a quirky situation if you ask me - makes no sense. It's a messy subject-matter. I would not address that on air - you are opening a can of worms , unless you have years and years of RE experience and yourself resolved BB issues.
Second, you are dabbing into contract law, and since you are not an attorney, you should not be giving legal advice.
Bottom line: If don't like them, then don't sign them.
In AZ, they are enforceable with a whole range of terms and conditions. And it's messy.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
2,071,156
They're not that common in my area, but there are some that use them.
I have never used them in my, now, lengthy career. If I'm going to act as a fiduciary for my clients, the very first thing I'm going to do after having them sign an exclusive buyer's agreement is to have them tear-it-up... because it doesn't serve their best interests, it protects me and my commission.
If I'm doing my job properly, they will buy with me. If I'm not, well, then they will buy with someone else. I try to keep my buyers loyal to me by providing them excellent service... instead of tying them to me with paper.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Carpinteria, CA
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Dr. Karen Lewis, Broke...
Fort Lauderdale, FL
4,900,966
I use them; however, I include either party can terminate at any time for any reason.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
809,258
Every state law is so different with regard to agency that I'd be careful quoting anyone in here about their take on agency. Take a look at the sub-comments on many of these answers and it's clear that every state is wildly different and therefore we sometimes THINK we are talking about the same thing but may be coming from completely different perspectives and understandings based on our state laws and standard practices. -Kasey
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Eve Alexander
Tampa, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
715,782
I always encourage buyers service agreements. And when they are used - signed before taking buyers out for the first set of showings - with the understanding that after one day of working together, if both parties find they are not working well together, the agreement can be torn up, it works great. This agreement saved one of the agents in our brokerage a $1,200,000 sale.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
5,254,035
Karen, they are required in our states (North and South Carolina) by our brokerage and must be in our files when an Offer is submitted. Honestly, why WOULD a buyer want to work with an agent who is technically working for the seller (as a sub-agent)?
Makes no sense to me why one wouldn't have a Buyer Agency Agreement, because it's there to not only protect the agent but, the buyer. As a 'customer' or unrepresented buyer, any agent with whom you speak can disclose your information to the seller. As a buyer, I would want someone who represents ME - not the seller!
Are there buyers who stray from them - of COURSE it happens! I've never personally had it happen but, it does happen.
As an agent, I will say that the majority of our MLS listings offer commission ONLY to buyers' agents - not seller sub-agents. So, having a BA Agreement is in our best interest...if we want to be paid!
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
613,494
I don't get the thinking of some Fake buyers agent who believe that an EB agreemt is not valid or worth it or it means nothing.
Really?? than why do you list seller properties? Same thing. Exactly the same thing!
I have been an exclusive buyer agent for more than 25 years and I have NEVER had a buyer leave me or want to leave me to go work with someone else...why? Because I take my job seriously and never take shortcuts...
Try giving a buyer 100% and they will never look elsewhere.
Eve
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
5,027,088
I always have a buyer brokers agreement. If a buyer isn't happy I will always release them but have never had to do that in my career. If I sell any of my brokerages listing I have to have one to give me the right to act in Intermediary.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
7,863,184
Agents should have an easy release policy to avoid these disagreements.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
6,417,445
An agreement is only as good as the honesty and integrity of those who sign it, clearly the guy on your radio show is not a man of integrity.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
2,684,569
The Florida (Association of) Realtors EBBA form is deceptive and misleading. It favors the Real Estate Company, it does NOTHING to protect the consumer/Buyer. It guarantees a commission to the Broker, and that's all it does.
The form provides NO fiduciary relationship; it even has a checkbox for NON-representation or transaction brokerage.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,466,257
Karen Jones Lewis, MBA, Realtor BBA's are mandatory in my State.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
3,349,404
I do not use them. It's all about working with people I like and want to do business with. With those folks, it has never been an issue. We work together and we close.
I don't just work with anyone.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
5,772,581
Karen,
This is not enough information to comment.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
1,617,916
I am sure the broker did not want bad publicity. Not worth it
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Dr. Karen Lewis, Broke...
Fort Lauderdale, FL
1,846,901
You Q is pretty vague. After all, the buyer did sign an agreement. I am sure they woulnd't mind holding your feet to the fire when needed so ?? I guess it doesn't work both ways legally. Consumer is getting bullied?
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
956,152
Not understanding this fully. Buyer agreed to sign an agreement...and he somehow won a lawsuit? He signed something he disagreed with? Doesn't make sense.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
177,949
I use them but if a client wants to go you are right are you going to hold them hostage. Thanks
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
4,319,773
Karen Jones Lewis, MBA, Realtor we live in a litigation country where McDonald's had to pay a huge sum to a customer for reasons beyond my understanding.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,506,013
I've heard and seen that they are pretty easy to get out of and some brokers won't enforce them. They are more psychological than anything else. I don't use them, although recently I've started warming up to them.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,988,013
If the agent is committed to the client there shouldn't be any issues that come up. The problem I see is that some agents get frustrated with the buyer and stop contacting and abandon the buyer. Then the buyer is contracted to stay with that agent but is not getting any agent services. That's the rub.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,712,776
1,045,440
I would agree with many here..simply put if a buyer is unwilling to sign a BBA then they aren't worth investing time or effort. As for Winning on getting out of an agreement the real bottom line is that any good lawyer can find a way out of most any agreement. So really its about whether the people agreeing to a contract believe in keeping their word.
1,241,754
In CA I am not aware many realtors or brokers signed one with buyer. I have eyes out there if I catch anyone doing it he can get off my car on the freeway.
I did ask an investor to sign one that she offers me to list any that get into contract. She will also pay me if I can not get paid. In CA not all deals pays the buyer agent fee anymore.
340,453
We don't have them in NYC (another rain'er commented as much with experience in the 1990's). While I am sure I could make an argument supporting their use - I don't see enough of a value to even having the discussion of implementing them here. While NYC has wildly fluctuating numbers of 25,000-35,000 agents- the reality is most work with rentals and the number of agents that work mostly with sales is far smaller. Woring with buyers can mean they go to the next agent but it becomes obvious very quickly who specializes in sales vs. a licensed agent that mostly does rentals and doesn't often work with buyers. Loyalty should be earned- and I don't need an agreement for that.
177,546
To protect myself and to give them the commitment they deserve, I ask them to sign it. Then if they don't want to sign it for some reason or the other, I know it's time for me to move on. I choose not to make a commitment of my time and resources to someone who won't give me the same consideration.
5,877,335
In Colorado, if you are representing the Buyer as an exclusive Buyer Agent, it has to be in writing.
353,865
No, but I rarely work with buyers whom I don't already know. If you give good service you don't need to force them to work with you.
1,728,156
599,734
They are required by law so a client can complain all they want and I'm still going to require it.
991,252
4,800,132
I am not a big fan of these agreements, as they are difficult to enforce.
4,434,177
3,986,308
When you get a buyes agreement signed you better make sure you do everyting on times and to the best you can or if there is a compaint files, and you messed up just a bit you WILL lose
913,468
They are required in VA, but we have some flexibility on how and when to use them. I remember a trainer at NVAR telling the class that when agents are holding open houses, they should ask visitors if they have a sign buyer broker agreement. So it's a good idea to have one, even if it get canceled at a later date.
4,960,530
902,038
No comment since I don't know the issues invloved. I'd like to know what the disagreement was about before I express any opinions.
921,504
It's human nature.
NO ONE likes to have their choices limited. Signing the EBA pledges loyalty to one agent, eliminates others and complicates the world of the buyer. Some franchises make the EBA a requirement. This requirement makes the consumer feel MANIPULATED and always ends in resentment. It's human nature.
However, such an argument dismisses the plight of the real estate professional. Without a change, the data shows only 20% of citizens an agent works with actually result in a home purchase. 80% of the time the agents time invested in a citizen who expresses good intention results in nothing. That is the reality TODAY with the EBA in play.
Be aware, a closed transaction can involve anywhere for 6 to 60 hours invested by the agent. 80% of that activity results in the buyer not making a purchase. Imagine if you will, being paid for only 20% of the work you accomplish
Any business person would see this statistic as an opportunity for improvement. What are the options?
1. Have the buyer 'pay as you go.'
2. Subscribe buyer to 'purchase a package' plan
3. Provide transaction oversight service only
4. Create loyalty plans
5. Refuse to provide any service to buyers who don't see the value in loyalty, commitment and professional duty.
6. New business models that reduce agent involvement to activities that can be completed from the desk and NO driving....EVER!
7. Eliminate EBA entirely, business as usual, 20% of buyers actually make a purchase....leaving the agent funding all of the failed 80%.
8. Agents sue buyers for non-performance.
Then, just for the fun of it I would ask these 'resentful' buyers if they see themselves playing a role, see themselves at all in this video that lists the attributes of the real estate professional. It is the GOD MADE A REALTOR video.
Regarding your question, please tag me in a response that expands on 'made a compliant' and 'won."