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Nathan Gesner, Broker / Property Manager (American West Realty and Management)

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Teri Pacitto
Compass - Westlake Village, CA
Real Estate, Your Style...Your Home...My Specialty

A short sale seller decided that everything they had put into the home was theirs and this included toilets, sinks, door knobs, light fixtures, light switches, rose bushes and the list goes on...was theirs and they had the right to take it.  Luckily the buyer was a contractor and it all worked out but we know the lender had a major issue with the seller after the close. The seller was a lawyer.  I don't miss those years. Enough said.

Feb 24, 2017 06:53 AM
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Kathryn Acciari
Central One Federal Credit Union - Shrewsbury, MA
Mortgage Loan Originator

Our first house. It was a divorce situation, and the entire process was a nightmare. (The house was actually egged mid-way through the sale.) We signed papers, got the key, and when we pulled up to the house, cops and neighbors were all over the yard. The ex-husband and the brother-in-law were in a brawl over a paint sprayer that had been left in the garage. That cleared up, and the ex gave us a walk-through, proudly showing where he had grown a certain type of plant in the basement. Happily, none of my buyers have had to go through such an experience!

Feb 24, 2017 05:01 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Yes, and why i would never tell my buyer to let a seller stay after closing. There was a deal with another company, the seller was not out at closing, said they did not know they had to be out at closing, they agreed to pay rent and stay a couple of weeks. No money was withheld, no agreement signed, buyer closed, seller took their money and stayed a month. After they left, it was found they took cabinets, all appliances, most lights and left a dirt trail through out

Feb 24, 2017 02:55 AM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

None that stand out. Most of my sellers move before close if escrow. Not too many rent backs. There were plenty of bad scenarios during the preforeclosure years, but we knew them going in. The damage was done when we saw the home. Someone took all the flooring once.

Feb 23, 2017 11:33 PM
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Not my clients... but about 15 or 18 years ago some sellers stayed in the home for an extra 4 days or so and the house burnt down. There was no insurance as the new owners didn't get renters insurance and the sellers no longer owned the home.  Neither company would pay a dime. That is when our entire industry in my area said - holy smokes - we better stop doing post possesion.  I haven't done it since that time.

Feb 24, 2017 10:27 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

we don't close unless everyone and everything is out before closing.... and the locks are changed immediately after closing....

Feb 24, 2017 05:47 AM
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Susan Laxson CRS
Palm Properties - La Quinta, CA
Realtor in San Diego, CA & Naples, FL

Had a seller that the moving company on the day of the closing and move, postponed the move for a week due to a driver's shortage. Fortunately, everyone was calm, the buyers intended to do work on the home prior to moving in anyway, and it all worked out.

Feb 24, 2017 04:37 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I have had people late geting out but again, we clear this hurdle by doing the walk through

Feb 23, 2017 08:34 PM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I had one happen in November, where the seller gave up on keeping the home up, poo piles everywhere in the backyard, and barely cleaned.   When we viewed the home and on inspection was very clean.

Feb 27, 2017 07:46 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

One couple rip wall paper half down and left dirty diapers in each room.

 

Feb 25, 2017 10:51 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     Made the mistake once of letting a BUYER take early occupancy.  HVAC system mysteriously failed over the weekend.  This was before Home Warranties.  Buyer demanded a new system; Seller said "No".  It was a mess.  

     My rule since then:  Seller gets out before closing, Buyer gets keys handed to him/her by the Title Closer at the closing table. 

Feb 24, 2017 04:49 PM
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Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Only one I can remember. My seller was a Relo and they didn't clean and left items in the house..couldn't get the Relo company to crack down on them. I called a cleaning company and paid for the cleaning and made the buyer happy. Guess who they called when they were ready to sell? Me!

Feb 24, 2017 04:44 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

A few nightmare stories for sure. The most recent was a seller leaving all kinds of "crap" in the home for the new owner to deal with.  It did not happen. A demand was sent and the seller got the house cleaned up.

Feb 24, 2017 04:18 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Nathan,

Nothing of note in our real estate life. A

Feb 24, 2017 03:09 PM
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John Slocum
Premiere Property Group, LLC - Vancouver Washington - Vancouver, WA
Broker, SFR - Vancouver WA Real Estate

Seller had burned through about 4 listing agents in 3 years time, and has newbie listing agent when my customer wants to buy that house.  All of our armor wore very thin during the transaction because of seller's behavior (and they worked at major government hospital in town!).  Promised they'd be out on Saturday but still their on a Hot Sunday morning.  Finally gone Sunday evening, along with items agreed to be left with the sale.  Got my CC License after that one, as that seller made us feel we were in mortal danger to be around them.

Feb 24, 2017 02:40 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

The seller refused to move out - which necessitated eviction by the sheriff.

Feb 24, 2017 02:29 PM
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Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Nathan - Have never had to experience sellers staying in their home after closing. However, I have had sellers leave stuff behind, most of it junk, or just a dirty home.

Feb 24, 2017 11:44 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

In a traditional sale it's usually pretty clean.  Sometimes they might take a mirror that they don't realize needs to stay.

Feb 24, 2017 10:39 AM
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Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

One of the agents in my company hired three of his buddies to being a truck to move the seller out. The sellet wasn't being difficult he just was an older gentleman and didnt realize he just needed to be gone. It all worked out fine. Had a few where appliances, hvac, etc stop working a few days after closing on a few occassions (like they just KNEW they were under new ownership). Home warranties have helped immensely in those situations. I can't think of anything horrifying.-Kasey

Feb 24, 2017 09:26 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

It was a challenging transaction from start to finish and then beyond when the seller decided to not move out per the language in the contract.  It has only happened once and once is definitely more than enough.  

Feb 24, 2017 07:10 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Stuff happens. Life is not perfect. Move on.

Feb 24, 2017 07:07 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I've never had a sale where we allowed this.

Feb 24, 2017 06:25 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

I do not recall any issues in recent years.

Feb 24, 2017 06:20 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

The house began to fall apart at the walls

Feb 24, 2017 06:11 AM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Yes. Had it happen last year and the day the movers were coming the sellers grown children were still in bed at 9AM. The buyers were freaking out. Of course, it took 3 times longer to finish getting out as they thought it would. I kept saying the sellers were in a daze. 

Feb 24, 2017 05:50 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Nathan Gesner I've never had a hold over.

Feb 24, 2017 05:48 AM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

It has never been a problem. We have found the post-occupants very appreciative of the buyers cooperation.

Feb 24, 2017 05:44 AM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I don't want to say 'worst' I want to say challenging. The seller refused to move when the closing happened. It was a divorce situation & both sellers pre-signed & he just would not move. I went to talk with him on several occasions & all he said was 'when I'm ready'. He left the place somewhat of a shambles but at least he was out. Very trying man & I knew why the wife was divorcing him.

Feb 24, 2017 05:42 AM
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Becca Rasmussen
HomeSmart Cherry Creek - Highlands Ranch, CO

HEARD in a CE course:

Buyers and Sellers are at the closing table, with a contractual post-occupancy agreement in place. While they're signing the paperwork, the house catches fire (I don't recall the reason but faulty wiring or some such; nothing intentional) and burns to the ground. 

Worse nightmare than the loss of the house itself --> Whose insurance is responsible?

Feb 24, 2017 05:41 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

None, to be honest. At least not yet.

Feb 24, 2017 05:26 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

No experience of this nature that was not caused by bank foreclosing in the 'day.' The betrayed owner physically removed every dollar they invested and a little extra for pain and suffering.

Every time an 'overstay' is suggested, I add up the cost and few are willing to put down the $25,000 such an overstay will cost.

I try to make it NOT AN OPTION.

 

Feb 24, 2017 04:42 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Not yet

Feb 24, 2017 04:02 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Not yet!

Feb 24, 2017 03:45 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I had fun with short sales when they know they have to move, but could not find a place. It can be extremely stressful for everyone involved. 

Feb 24, 2017 12:03 AM
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Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

The purchase of our own home:)) seller did not move out for three days and Diane wanted to take legal action:))Endre

Feb 23, 2017 11:44 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Nathan Gesner - worst? The keys provided to my buyer just did not work!

(And buyers felt - they took all the money and....)

Feb 23, 2017 10:15 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Never a good policy; potential for sellers to become deadbeat tenants.

Feb 23, 2017 09:59 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Nope it's never happened. I have had several rent-backs that were part of the contract. I did have a seller who was relocating and the mover canceled the morning of the move, the day before closing

Feb 23, 2017 09:26 PM
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Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

Whew!  Sounds like a nightmare ... but for me, I've not had any "worst experiences" with post-closing occupancy yet.  Knock on Wood.

Feb 23, 2017 09:07 PM