David Landau, RE/MAX Right Choice (President, Newtown Board of Realtors)

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Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

I use only the recent stats; what has sold, what has come on the market, what has had a price reduction ?  How many showings have there been and have there been any offers as yet?

I try to remember that this is not my home and not my decision.  I share with my Seller that the market is not supporting the price and we can't continue to chase it but instead, we need to get ahead of it!   Good luck with this David Landau 

May 11, 2016 09:00 AM
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Mitchell J Hall
Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn

It depends on their particular situation and motivation. It's easier to convince if they are anxious to buy a new place and must sell first or if they have a vacant rental property losing money each day it remains vacant holding out for their price.

I manage their expectations. I tell them their home is a commodity. Neither their agent or they can determine the sale price the market ultimately determines price. "The market has spoken since we've had little activity and no offers." While empathetic I tell them what they paid or how much they owe and how much they need unfortunately is irrelevant. All that matters is what today's buyer is willing to pay.

I tell them that every property goes into play and will sell at the right price. An "overpriced" listing is a frozen asset.

I tell a story about an overpriced listing with no activity until seller finally lowered price and then it received multiple bids and ended up selling for more than the original "overpriced" price. Go figure? But true.

I tell them they do not have to accept any offers but lets see the activity at new price. They are usually happy when they finally get an offer or offers.

May 11, 2016 09:32 PM
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Robert May
Robert W May - Lethbridge Real Estate - Lethbridge, AB
Real estate consulting

I guide the seller to make that call on their own by providing them facts and letting them come to the solution

May 11, 2016 01:13 PM
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Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

I always tell them that three things sell a house, price, condition and location. Since they can't change the locations there are only two things they can change.

May 11, 2016 01:11 PM
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Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

The facts..nothing but the facts! Comparable sales and how the current pending sales are moving..have to be able to read the market and share the data!

May 11, 2016 12:48 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I show the sellers the comps, review the recent market activity and comments from showings, discuss the outlook and then encourage a price improvement.

May 11, 2016 08:58 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
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1. Are you getting traffic on the property?

2. Have they upgraded the property?

3. What are the homes in the area selling for?

4. What feedback are you getting from showing agents?

Get all that information and share it with the seller and also put toghether a list of current expenses per month.  

May 11, 2016 10:11 PM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

I set the ground work from the beginning - if we don't have showings or interest in the first 2-3 weeks, we drop the price and continue to do so untl we hit the "sweet spot" of the market.

This also help with sellers with unreasobable expectations of their asking price.

May 11, 2016 09:53 PM
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Allie Angeloni
Long Realty - Oro Valley, AZ

I keep in touch on a weekly basis with our Sellers, and they know the comments and results from Open Houses, how many times their house was shown, and if there were any Offers.  When it's been a matter of weeks, or a month, whatever was previously decided on has passed, with no Offers, and/or no or minimal showings, we discuss reducing the price.  The initial discussion takes place when we are signing the paperwork, at a Listing Presentation, or shortly thereafter, if they were interviewing agents.  This is critical when the Seller wants a higher price (for the reasons you mentioned or others), and they are shown the comparables which at that time, they are not willing to accept.  It's a matter of 'knowing they want or need to move on - either for another job, for health reasons, need to down or up size, etc. - and us working with them as a team and reminding them of their original plan, and helping them to achieve their goal, hence lowering the Asking Price.  Might be by $5K or $10, depending on what is 'not happening' with their house.  We as LA in those cases, have to have A Plan!  Now if they are able and motivated to (but just wanted to 'wait and see' what happened!), now they may decide to either do work at their house - or - lower the price.  In our niche, it's older folks, so it's lowering the price, because everything is original, and where does one start . . . 

May 11, 2016 09:36 AM
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Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

Conrad Allen is totally right. I have some of those dreamers and I stick with them but one of these days I am going to weed out people who won't listen to reason,

May 11, 2016 09:14 AM
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

IF you took it on the high side to start with...good luck with that .  IF the market changed...or said "no" the price that's another issue. Some people write it in the listing contract that there will be periodic...ie every 30 days....the pricing will be reviewed...logic doesn't usually prevail. The longer the property is at the price the market has rejected, the lower it will be when it does sell.

May 11, 2016 08:40 AM
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Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
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It all comes down to the cold hard facts...numbers don't lie on what the comparable sales have closed for.

May 12, 2016 02:09 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Market stats and feedback from people who've seen the house.  Those tend to be the best tools.

May 12, 2016 05:08 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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"If you were a qualified buyer . . . what would YOU be willing to pay for your house?"

May 11, 2016 11:22 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Some can not be convinced.

May 11, 2016 10:24 PM
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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Then his script is better than yours as my coach told me one time!  You can show him the comps and ask him which one he would buy and then see where he would put his into the mix

May 11, 2016 09:58 PM
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Susan Laxson CRS
Palm Properties - La Quinta, CA
Realtor in San Diego, CA & Naples, FL

I too like what Susan Emo said.

May 11, 2016 09:38 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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A lot of comps.

And often an expired listing.

 

May 11, 2016 06:04 PM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@Properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

I beg.  If that doesn't work, I give them a comps update.

May 11, 2016 04:18 PM
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Eric Kodner
Madeline Island Realty - La Pointe, WI
CRS, Madeline Island Realty, LaPointe, WI 54850 -

For some sellers, this will never work, no matter how persuasive or logical you are. We live in a nation where everyone over fifty-five is dreaming about a return to the "good old days", whatever that means. Living in the past is a poor recipe for accepting the present.

May 11, 2016 02:02 PM
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Coal Infantino
Coldwell Banker - York, PA
Realtor specializing in south central PA

You have a lot of really good answers here, and I am not sure I can add any ground breaking concepts but sometimes reminding them about their carrying costs per month makes it more tangable. I tell them "staying listed for 3 more months will cost you $XXXX.00.  That seems to hit home pretty good.

May 11, 2016 01:20 PM
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Mimi Foster
Falcon Property Company - Colorado Springs, CO
Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor

I tell them going in that for every ten showings we should have at least one offer or the price is too high.

Also, maybe a Broker Open would help where you could get a group of agents who tell them the price is too high?

May 11, 2016 11:32 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     Either drop the price, or be very very patient and hope that inventory dries up.

May 11, 2016 11:01 AM
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Anne Lok
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Toronto Realty - Toronto, ON
Toronto Modern Real Estate

The showing feedback and showing activities, as well as recent solds for similar homes would offer the best clues why the property is not selling. Then determine if the price needs adjustment. However, in the Toronto market where bidding wars are everywhere and sells within a week, there are occasionally homes that don't get offers in the first week even with an underlist price.  I saw one recently underlisted at $899k with a 1 week holdback on offer date,  didn't get offers, then raised the asking price to $1.2m, and sold for $1.125m 2 weeks after.

May 11, 2016 10:52 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

I would recommend getting an official appraisal and suggest you list the home at the appraised value.  You might even offer to reimburse them the cost of the appraisal at closing.  This will give them incentive to stay with you instead of listing (at a lower price) with another agent.  

May 11, 2016 09:30 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
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Show them news paper clipping that home prices have dropped. They got to go with the market flow.  Also request an appraisal-3rd party confirmation not to support listed price,

May 11, 2016 09:20 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

You have to have a reasonable seller that is willing to listen to your expert advice.    When you show prices declining, or other homes going UC before theirs should show them they are overpriced.   The longer on the market, the lower price they will see.

May 14, 2016 12:30 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Using Absorption Rate & DOM to say - We've given it a good try , but it now appears there's NOTHING LEFT to prove at this Price Point !"  "THe buyers have voted thru their DISINTEREST !"

May 13, 2016 12:18 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Showing the facts but that doesn't always do it

May 12, 2016 01:03 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Bombard them with information about what's happening in the local market.  Especially sales in the neighborhood, new listings, etc.  When they see other homes sell, but at lower prices, they will get it.

May 12, 2016 04:32 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
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That was only an issue for me once when our market was beginning the crash. Offers were coming in seller would not accept ... I canceled the listing. 

May 12, 2016 04:11 AM
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David Gibson CNE, 719-304-4684 ~ Colorado Springs Relocation
Colorado Real Estate Advisers LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Relocation, Luxury & Lifestyle residential

David,

#1 I deal with it before I ever take the listing including minimum drops of $5,000 to $10,000 depending on the price of the house.

 

# 2 Two or three weekends, if not enough showing traffic, the price needs to drop.

 

 

# 3 Show them the houses going under contract. Are they better prepared for sale and / or better priced?

May 12, 2016 02:43 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
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Lots of good comps with photo's and maybe take him to some of the other homes on the market.

May 12, 2016 02:15 AM
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Donald Urschalitz
Lubeck Realty Group - Jupiter, FL
P.A. Realtor ABR RSPS North Palm Beach County

If other homes are selling in the neighborhood I suggest that your home is helping them sell if it is listed to high.

May 12, 2016 12:48 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

your home is providing a great service for other homes on the market....people buy on comparison, and after they see what that dollar amount gets them at your house, the next home they see that is priced properly will be the one they buy....

May 12, 2016 12:29 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

We have "the discussion" in advance of signing the listing documents.  "You do realize that if there are no showings and no offers in the first two weeks - you will need to lower your price?"  If not - NEXT!

May 12, 2016 12:15 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Share the facts.

May 11, 2016 11:21 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Simple math works every time. If you hold out for months to possibly get more money versus getting a tiny less right now, a bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush every time. You lose having the big $ for a chance of gaining the little $ ...???  If it costs money to get more money, its a wash!

May 11, 2016 11:19 PM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Days on market, feed back for showings, and a new CMA.

May 11, 2016 11:12 PM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

If they can't face the facts ask "What part of NO don't you understand?"!

May 11, 2016 11:02 PM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Show them the comps, and DOM statistics

May 11, 2016 10:59 PM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

By monitoring the comps, and keeping them informed on what's going under contract with similar properties to theirs.

May 11, 2016 10:49 PM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

It's a combination of facts and asking questions -- it will depend on the seller, the property and the agent.   Motivation matters.  

May 11, 2016 10:34 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

You can't make them lower a price obviously. All you can do is present facts as to why they should do so.

May 11, 2016 10:33 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

I find them the house they want to buy.

Economics delivers the message.

I never, ever, ask a seller to "Lower the Price."

However, we do stick to the game plan.

May 11, 2016 10:32 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

I show them the comps and why. When they do not understand or want to listen, i take them to other homes to show the difference in prices and values

May 11, 2016 10:27 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

David Landau - well, it's all about motivation and standard scripts...

May 11, 2016 04:50 PM
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Diana Zaccaro Broker Associate
Tropical Beachside - Cocoa Beach, FL
"The Accidental Blogger" Cocoa Beach, Florida

With great difficulty...  Seriously, though, there is no "magic bullet" as far as any specific phrases you can use. The method really depends on your personal style and your customer's learning style. Some people relate best to being shown a current CMA of their area, others prefer to see a market report, some need to see both. Put all the facts together then have "the talk" with them. Good luck!

 

May 11, 2016 02:29 PM
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Buzz Mackintosh
Mackintosh REALTORS - Frederick, MD
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If there is no activity it should be obvious. You need to ask them: Do you want to stay? Or, Do you want to go? Right now you are at a stay here price? I Also like to say we need to be here $XX to make the window for showings. $XX will make the window for our potential Buyer to see your property.

May 11, 2016 12:27 PM
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Melissa Jackson REALTOR
Trinity Premier Properties - Azle, TX
Helping You Make The Right Move

I keep the seller informed of what's going on in theri area.   Recently my seller wanted to wait for an offer then go from there!  

May 11, 2016 11:26 AM
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Les & Sarah Oswald
Realty One Group - Eastvale, CA
Broker, Realtor and Investor

Show them what the market value is of their house. A house is only worth what the market stipulates. I would also show the inactivity of showing slows down after 2 weeks, then drops drastically after a month if there are no price adjustments.

May 11, 2016 09:39 AM