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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
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Debbie I've never run across this in 28 years.  Like Candice I would want a very STRONG hold harmless in place and I wouldn't make a move until I discussed with our attorney.

Nov 22, 2015 05:24 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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I guess that's all you CAN do, if all the parties agree and your broker is OK with it. I would want a VERY strong 'hold harmless and indemnify' clause drafted by an attorney, if we encountered that -- which fortunately, we have not.

Nov 22, 2015 05:19 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

I would leave that task to the attorney at settlement. Clients do not always follow our recommendations.

Nov 22, 2015 05:37 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I would probably not get involved with the sale. I would suggest they talk to an attorney first.

Nov 22, 2015 08:29 PM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

In a cash deal, gett a waiver. All others require title insurance!

Nov 22, 2015 08:17 PM
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
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I don't believe here we could cllose without it...it is part of the transaction and the Seller understands the cost when the lsiting is signed.

Nov 22, 2015 06:11 PM
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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
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Good morning Debbie. I don't recall a time that someone didn't pay for title insurance. If that was the case, get documentation.

Nov 22, 2015 05:00 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
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To tell you the truth, I never had to wave a title insurance. Probably with our housing prices~ it is too risky decision. 

Nov 22, 2015 03:22 PM
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Susan Emo
Kingston, ON
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This is not something in my area of expertise and therefore, would not be involved.   Title insurance is discussed with a Mortgage Broker not a Realtor.

Nov 22, 2015 08:54 AM
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Debbie Laity
CinaJones Real Estate - Cedaredge, CO
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I would certainly get a signed waiver. I also get a signed waiver when the buyer doesn't want to do an inspection. 

Nov 22, 2015 08:20 AM
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Michael Thacker - Re/Max Real Estate Center - Louisville
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There is a place to check on the contract saying you opted out and understand the ramifications.

Nov 22, 2015 08:01 AM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
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Our custom in Florida is the party selecting the closing company pays title. If a lender is involved, there is no choice; there must be title insurance

Nov 22, 2015 07:55 AM
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Fred Hafdelin
Weichert Realtors - Mountain Lakes, NJ

I would let the Attorney take care of it at closing and would make sure that all concerned including my Broker were aware of the situation. 

Nov 22, 2015 06:04 AM
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Bob Crane
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Not many lenders will allow this foolishness.

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Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
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Debbie - I have never had this issue come up.

Nov 24, 2015 09:44 AM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Debbie Reynolds in MA, lender's title insurance is mandatory and buyers pay for it.

The owner's title insurance is optional. Buyers may wish to buy it!

Nov 23, 2015 03:50 AM
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Jeff Pearl
Samson Properties / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
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That's up to the title company. I had one buyer that just didn't want title insurance. That's his choice and a risk he chose to take. Agents have nothing to do with that. If a title search was done, and there were no issues, there shouldn't be a problem. But if a mortgage is involved, lender will usually require lender coverage. I am not licensed to sell insurance so I wouldn't ask for or need any waiver signed.

Nov 23, 2015 02:23 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
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I thought title insurance was mandatory.

Nov 23, 2015 01:42 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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I've never had this situation occur.   Title insurance is a part of every transaction I've ever been involved.   

Nov 23, 2015 01:38 AM
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Amelia Robinette
NoVa House and Home - Frankly Realty - Falls Church, VA
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Title insurance is between the title company and the purchaser of the insurance policy - buyer or seller. I'd ask them to take care of any waivers.

Owners title insurance isn't required in my jurisdiction, most people don't realize it's optional and don't bother to ask questions or research why they might need it. I always direct buyer clients to several resources and advise them to research before choosing. The profit margin on those policies is about 80%, if my client chooses to purchase, I advise them to ask for a substantial discount. It's worked every time.

Nov 23, 2015 12:40 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I have not experienced this, and would definitely recommend having a conversation with an attorney.

Nov 22, 2015 10:46 PM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
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Debbie Reynolds Buyer's title insurance is optional. I've only had one client who turned it down. It was brought up again at the settlement table by the attorney. They still turned it down. The attorney did not ask them to sign a waiver.

Nov 22, 2015 10:26 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
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Just sign the waiver.

Initial here, here, here and here.

 

Nov 22, 2015 10:02 PM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

If they are paying cash and do not want title insurance and or a survey I will have them sign a disclosure that they refused.

Nov 22, 2015 09:27 PM
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Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

In 7 years of real estate I've never experienced this.  

Nov 22, 2015 08:47 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
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In NC and SC, the seller does not pay for title insurance. It's a buyer obligation per the contract language. If financing, the lender will require title insurance for their portion. The remaining portion for the buyer is typically a small amount and our attorneys simply add it on... have never had a client challenge the cost once they understand what it's for.  Actually, these days I have more and more clients opting to pay more for coverage of an enhanced policy. (But if they suddenly said no, I'd certainly have them sign a waiver for their portion.)

Nov 22, 2015 08:34 PM
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TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

 Good Monday morning Debbie. Hold harmless agreement would be your best option.

Nov 22, 2015 05:16 PM
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Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
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If no one wanted it, absolutely.  That is not going to fall on me...

Nov 22, 2015 11:33 AM
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Larry Johnston
Broker, Friends & Neighbors Real Estate and Elkhart County Subdivisions, LLC - Elkhart, IN
Broker,Friends & Neighbors Real Estate, Elkhart,IN

Any time something is refused, a signed waiver is the way to go.

Nov 22, 2015 11:32 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
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In our area never had one seller who will not pay.....

Nov 22, 2015 10:28 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I've never heard of this.  I don't even think it's come up as to why the policy is even needed.  I know the home protection plan does.

 

I definitely would not pay for it.  Waivers are good but make sure it's vetted by a lawyer.  You don't want anything to come back to bite you later.

Nov 22, 2015 08:28 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

In Oklahoma our contracts are typically written for the seller to do abstract udating (yes we still have paper abstracts, as well as attorneys fees, and gap check. The buyer pays for title insurance. 99 times out of 100 that is how it happens.

Nov 22, 2015 07:50 AM
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Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I've never had this happen. I'm not sure what I would do frankly....definitely get a waiver signed but if there was room, I'd probably pay for it myself. 

Nov 22, 2015 07:27 AM
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Mike Rock
Complete Design - Granite Bay, CA
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now....granted title insurance has so many "outs" and has very low limits.. but i wouldnt want to be involved in a escrow without them,,, even with all the waivers signed.

Nov 22, 2015 06:34 AM