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William Feela, Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.  (WHISPERING PINES REALTY)

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Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
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Absolutely too easy to get a license - even with the ultra high education requirements here in Texas.  I would like to see not only more education required, but a required mentor program where one must be an apprentice for at least a year or a specific number of transactions before you can go it alone.

Nov 16, 2015 09:13 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I think it's way too easy to get licensed (despite the fact that there's probably a 50% failure rate on the first attempt to pass the state exam). Don't know about more CE, but I do think the requirements for the license should be toughened up.

Nov 16, 2015 08:42 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

William.

Our CE courses in California are fairly boring and they repeat themselves over and over again, and they are not that useful in terms of practical learning.  I do think that should be revamped and make the education fit the times.  A

Nov 16, 2015 01:38 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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Way too easy to get, I think that most of the complaints that you hear of could be eliminated with a higher level of entry.

Nov 16, 2015 09:19 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I always thought, it is just a way of making many for a department and state. It is easy to get in, but it is not easy to stay and make living. 

Nov 16, 2015 08:36 AM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I do think there should be more extensive education requirements. It looks so easy and that is part of the reason there isn't a commitment and people are quick to get out.

Nov 16, 2015 08:10 AM
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Colleen Fischesser Northwest Property Shop
NextHome Experience - Chelan, WA
A Tradition of Trust in the Pacific NW since 1990!

WA state made it more difficult within the last few years and the drop out rate is still high. I'd like to see more of a formal apprenticeship status for new licensees though. 

Nov 16, 2015 06:52 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

It is very easy to obtain a real estate license.  Too bad they don't teach in school more of what you REALLY see in the field.  And go into more detail about the costs associated with holding a license.

Nov 16, 2015 05:44 AM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
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States differ in the hoops necessary to gain a RE License. For Florida, it should be MUCH more difficult. California is about right with all the courses they require.

Nov 16, 2015 09:13 PM
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Marco Giancola
Beachfront Realty - Miami Beach, FL
Realtor (305)608-1922, Miami Beach Florida

Absolutely yes. Just yesterday a friend told me he had failed the class test and I asked how that was possible. He told me he never studied. This is a serious profession and should be tightened up with more education and higher demands on the professional.

Nov 16, 2015 07:13 PM
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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning William. I don't think the number of hours in a class is going to make that much difference. It has much more to do with DNA.

Nov 16, 2015 04:37 PM
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Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
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When I went to real estate school, there was nothing about it that was easy to me. At that time our requirement was 54 hours.  Now it is 90 hours plus an additional 80 hours required in the next two years.

Nov 16, 2015 11:27 AM
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Gary Coles (International Referrals)
Venture Realty International - Las Vegas, NV
Latin America Real Estate

I have taken tests for four states and I feel they were too easy and none of them addressed much about true knowledge of real estate.  They all concentrated on rules, regulations and punishments.  The tests seem designed to perpetuate state bureaucracies. Another example of too much government doing no good at all.

As Joan Cox  mentioned, the classes and tests should cover what you see in the field,

Five other members have expressed the idea of an apprenticeship or internship.  I have endorsed that idea for years.  It will not solve all the problems but would be a step in the right direction. (I tried to tag all five but AR says there is a limit of tags in the body)

As to CE classes, they need to address what we face in the field and should be more challenging that they currently are.

Nov 16, 2015 11:24 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I've been through the RE exam twice now (once in the 90s and once in April/May).  It was sad how easy it was.  They even asked the same question SIX times (and it wasn't a difficult one!).  I'm shocked that the average person STILL takes 3 attempts to pass!  I've also passed the Life & Health insurance exam way back in the day, same deal.  Easy-peasy.

 

Degree requirements are nice, but not good if you want to get in at 18 like I did.

 

As to CEs, they annoy me.  I tried to take a personal safety one through CA state.  Took the three section quizzes and scored 100% without reading the material (I teach that stuff) and it wouldn't let me take the exam unless I had spent 3 hours in the thing!  INSANE!  I miss the IT ones where you just attended a webinar and got the credit.

Nov 16, 2015 10:28 AM
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Spirit Messingham
Tierra Antigua Realty - Tucson, AZ
Third Generation Full-Time Realtor® 520 471-6900

Yes.  We need to raise the bar for entry into our profession.  I believe it is 18 and a pulse here in Arizona.  No education requirements.  For example, apprasiers here now must be a college graduate.   I dont have all the answers but I do wish we would raise the bar for entry.

Nov 16, 2015 08:19 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Too easy, too cheap, not enough CE. Newer agents should have an internship period like appraisers do, before they are unleashed on the public.

Nov 16, 2015 07:26 AM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I don't know. I think a lot of agents think the business is easy, but it isn't. For some taking the classes and getting a license is a waste of time and money, because they don't realize how hard they have to work. Maybe having an intro course into what this business is really like is the answer. 

Nov 16, 2015 07:11 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
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Way too easy. In CA I think 50% of people can pass.  

If they mandate like engineering profession-a BS with X years of working experience. For RE 2 years working experience with college courses in business etc.  

I don't believe a college degree requirement is un-reasonable. You are handling a lot of $$.  In CA if one has a college degree or mba one needed not to have 2 years of experience to go for broker license-THEY NOW changed the requirements. The experience definition was not defined.

Nov 16, 2015 07:09 AM
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Stefan Winter
Real Estate in IL & NV | Owner of Real Estate Web Tech | Daily Vlogger - Las Vegas, NV
Owner - Winter Group & Real Estate Web Tech

It is pretty easy to get, but I do not think more classes will solve anything. Maybe an apprenticeship with an experienced agent after you have a license before going of on your own could be a better idea.

Nov 16, 2015 06:35 AM
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Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
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William - I think it is too easy to obtain a real estate license, and that is why there are so many people who get into selling real estate, and so many who do it part-time, while working another full-time job.

However, I am not sure that more CE classes would solve the issue.

Nov 16, 2015 06:21 AM
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
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I've heard the RE test is a lot harder than it use to be.

Nov 16, 2015 10:05 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

William Feela I think the board can surely decide to have more hours for CE.

I am fine with 12 hours of CE every two years in MA.

Nov 16, 2015 01:52 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Depends on the state. Some are as low as 16 hours and I believe that Texas just went over 900. Regardless real estate is on the job training and hooking up with the right broker and a REALTOR® mentor makes the most difference.

Nov 16, 2015 08:59 AM
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Rob Thomas
Prestige Homes of The Tri Cities, Inc. CALL....423-341-6954 - Bristol, TN
Bristol TN-VA & Tri Cities Agent, ABR, GRI, e-Pro

Ours in the State of Tennessee and Virginia have gotten tougher in the past few years ....I know several that have failed!

Nov 16, 2015 08:54 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Depends on the state and their licensing requirements! Maybe more yes than no!

Nov 16, 2015 07:09 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Yes & Yes.  

Nov 16, 2015 06:29 AM
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Not sure about more CE but closer supervision by brokers is in order with awareness of how new an agent is...revew the offer, listing etc.. BEFORE it goes live.

Nov 16, 2015 06:18 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
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It is too easy and the CE should be more interesting for sure

Nov 16, 2015 06:03 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

I am not sure that CE classes are the best way to obtain the educational levels that will provide the best background for a real estate career.

Nov 16, 2015 05:45 AM
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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

definitely too easy - and yes there should be more CE Classes for all of us

Nov 17, 2015 11:08 AM
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Amelia Robinette
NoVa House and Home - Frankly Realty - Falls Church, VA
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The courses and exams have very little to do with the actual practice of real estate, IMHO.

If I were Queen... 

I'd still require the courses and tests, but would not let a new agent show houses, write up a deal, or manage a transaction until they completed a year long mentorship program, then re-tested. 

Nov 17, 2015 05:34 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

Much too easy and it often shows. There should be an "apprenticeship" period of sorts and more education. The amount of training is hugely inconsistent between different areas of the country. The RE laws and training should be standardized to improve quality all around.

Nov 17, 2015 05:22 AM
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Vern Eaton
Askov, MN
Realtor 651-674-7449

IN light of what we have seen over the last few years I agree on both accounts...Harder to get and more CE

Nov 17, 2015 12:28 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Yes . it is easy to get a license.

Nov 16, 2015 10:25 PM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

I think it is to easy and to easy to keep a license.

Nov 16, 2015 09:25 PM
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James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

While the license is not difficult to obtain the real lesson in this business comes afterwords.  Dealing with people and their wants and needs takes time and help from those who have been in this business.  Seek out and listen to those people with experience is the best teacher.  Mose CE classes only if they deal with how to obtain knowledge in dealing with clients.

Nov 16, 2015 08:00 PM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

I think new and seasoned agents should continue their education continuously.... and the licensing exam doesn't hinder anyone from getting licensed...some take the exam numerous times until they pass it...

Nov 16, 2015 07:27 AM
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Val Evans
Scottsdale, AZ

Even if you gave real estate licenses and all the "how to" classes away for free, the cream will always rise to the top. Real estate is a business just like any other. You either have business sense or you don't. Those who treat is as a hobby will earn hobby wages. Those who treat real estate as a business will never have to worry where their next deal is coming from.

Nov 16, 2015 06:59 AM
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Larry Johnston
Broker, Friends & Neighbors Real Estate and Elkhart County Subdivisions, LLC - Elkhart, IN
Broker,Friends & Neighbors Real Estate, Elkhart,IN

I don't think the issue is whether it is easy or not easy.  If they don't apply themselves and have a brokerage involved, new agents won't be a hinderance to other agents.  I have seen many get their licenses and are working in a fctory within a year, because they couldn't afford the fees and didn't close any or enough trnsactions to live on.

Nov 16, 2015 06:38 AM
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Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I don't know. It's really not that hard to be good at this. More classes might create less volume, not sure though. 

Nov 16, 2015 06:29 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

No.

Such talk can be attributed to those who want to exclude new people from the real estate business (exclusionists) and promote 'raise the bar' or 'more education' remedies that have no possibility of changing the outcome.

If you see something that needs FIXED, start with the BROKERS who broke it, not the agent.

Only two things would be needed and the problem would be SOLVED.

Agents must display status as Intern or Agent based on annual transactions.
Limit the number of Intern status a broker can keep on board.

Nov 16, 2015 05:46 AM