2,763,735
Owners are quick to approve a tenant to get someone in the house to cover payments.
If the tenant that they approved turns sour, owners are quick to blame the agent. Who else is there to blame?
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Tammy Adams ~ Realtor ...
Maricopa, AZ
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Thomas McCombs
Akron, OH
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Ava Anderson
Snellville, GA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
12,333
As a property manager, I throughly screen our tenants, credit score, eviction/judgment history, criminal check, employment verification and if they pass recommend them to our Owner Client. If they become behind on their rent, its the TENANT's responsibility and my only responsibility if they will not pay is to make sure they are legally evicted. NO PAY, NO STAY!
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Ava Anderson
Snellville, GA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Sheri Sperry - MCNE®
Sedona, AZ
280,599
If the owner/property manager made the decision it's theirs to own. "You shot it Tarzan, you eat it"
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Tammy Adams ~ Realtor ...
Maricopa, AZ
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
26,764
As a Property Manager I cannot blame the agent who referred the tenant. Our job is to run the application and qualify the tenant. That is not the procuring agents job
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Thomas McCombs
Akron, OH
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
5,584,889
if the client accepted the tenant, you're done with any responsibility.... you can't control whether people pay or not.... if they have a good history, it doesn't mean they're good forever....there's risk with everyone....even the very best...it's just less risk with the very best!!
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Ava Anderson
Snellville, GA
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Sheri Sperry - MCNE®
Sedona, AZ
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Lise Howe
Washington, DC
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
741,794
Not an ounce unless it's my tenant.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Tammy Adams ~ Realtor ...
Maricopa, AZ
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
539,848
What representations did you make about the tenant? What is the basis of the recommendation? Have you done a thorough background check to discover potential problems? A credit check alone is not sufficient.
There are cases where owners have sued property managers for negligent tenant screening and costs of eviction. Does the owner review the application and approve the tenant or rely on the licensed real estate professional? What services does the written agreement include?
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
371,913
If they decide NOT to use a property Manger, ours or other, then NOT MY responsibility, and carefully explained beforehand!
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
447,695
For the good, the bad, and the unfortunate... Agents cannot bear ANY responsibility for someone not paying their rent. If there is some "undisclosed" info that the agent kept to themselves about this particular renter, now we are into a different arena that would be very different..........Just my two cents.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
359,372
NONE! I bring potential renters to the owner, most often they are not my client. Even if they are, once their credit and background is run, it is not my decision and I have zero liability for their future behavior. I list and lease, I am not a management company.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
49,097
No as long as they were checked out and everything was fine, it's not my responsibility after that.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
1,574,716
None whatsover as long as you did your best to provide professional services.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
23,568
If the agent has provided a tenant and the landlord has reviewed their credit history and verified their income the landlord accepts them at that point in time based on that third party information. The Tenant Rep would not typically be responsible for anything that happens after the lease is signed as long as the agent didn't missrepresent. If a tenant signs a lease and moves in then looses their employment and can't make the lease payment or just decides to default there is nothing the referring agent could have done or could have known about? Anyone else?
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
1,952,054
None. The owner makes the decision on which tenant to accept. I don't do property managements.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
368,326
Good morning Jillian , none because at the end if they are not using a management company they make the final desicion of who is going to rent their property , great question have a super month
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
684,902
I do not take on any responsibility for a tenant who goes sour. My job is to screen them and if they have met the Landlords' requirements I then forward the name on to the Owner. The Owner ultimately makes the decision. Once that's done ... my responsibility has been completed. I've only had one bad apple and the Owner did not blame me at all. In fact he had me find him another tenant ... which I did.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Amanda Christiansen
Fort Wayne, IN
557,575
None. The landlord either has a PM or manages that task himself. So, agents bring tenants that are pre - qualified but it's the PM or landlord that should confirm their validity and financial qualifications of the tenant.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
305,610
I am myself a landlord. I do not think it is the agent's responsibility if the tenant doesn't pay. It is the owners job to vet them. Our job to help them find a home.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
140,621
Absolutely none whatsoever! We find the tenant. Once creditis run, incomes verified, etc. and the owner accepts the tenant your (my) responsibilty is over.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
149,298
Zero responsibility on my end. When the potential client/tenant calls and wants to see a certain rental(s), I Google and Facebook them, I meet with them at the office and have them sign a Buyer/Tenant Rep Agreement. I had one tenant tell me she had no pets but was taking care of a friend's 2 large dogs. Told her the properties she wanted to view were not pet friendly. I know it was not my place but told the property manager about it and informed the potential tenant that no pets were allowed on the premises. Too much pet damage in the past. She would not sign an agreement. So I didn't move any further. The listing agent called me and asked if I knew the name. The gal was not approved. After a potential client has moved in it is not our responsibility what happens after the fact!
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
288,729
What does your agreement say? (You do have an agreement, don't you?
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
916,944
Jillian, I think it may be a " reflection of selection "...really. We can not control what others do, or when they decide to pay despite what there POF, source of income or how great their Credit Background is, but still, it somehow is a reflection to us as the Agent/Property Manager to the Client.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
1,263,077
Just experienced that. Someone with claimed FICO score of 780 are 3 months late. Gave them Xmas asking them to vacate in January. The home was littered with belongings. I have not spoken to the paid agent for awhile. Flooring was damaged.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Sam Shueh
San Jose, CA
2,538,789
It all depends on who made the decision to rent to the tenant. If the owner made the final decision based on the facts you presented, it would be their responsibility.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
3,627,422
I don't have any rentals and one of the reason is that I don't want the owners calling when they have an issue such as you described.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
5,124,308
Zero, I did not take them to raise.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
1,466,257
Jillian Jno Charles I would say beyond initial qualifying the renter no responsibility. It's up to the landlord to check credit history and references. Of course if the property is property managed by a real estate firm, they have the responsibility for checking out the renter.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
1,677,946
Glad I don't have to deal with renters.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
2,445,533
do your due diligence, give the landlord the information and move on - you are done.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
1,772,017
None, they make the choice. I do a few high end rentals and all I can do is a credit and criminal background check and an interview. No promises.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
61,641
Zero. The renters that I place have gone through a lot to get into the rental. They typically have to provide a recent credit report, letter of reference from previous landlord, as well as filling out the rental application and providing job history and banking info. If the rental client passes the qualifications of the above, that is all I can do as a real estate agent.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
1,432,699
I am not a lawyer, but if you did all the required and agreed upon screening and were honest with your client what else can you do. I see no responsibility.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Gene Riemenschneider
Brentwood, CA
1,286,744
None! I supply the tenant and the owner or agent runs their credit and does a background check. I don't approve the tenant or provide any information. Easy peasy in Scottsdale!
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
5,322,261
This is one I could argue both ways. But it is still up to the landlord to do their due diligence on a prospective tenant. Even if I didn't have any real responsiblity, I would still feel bad.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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James Dray
Bentonville, AR
1,209,271
All of it. I mean, it's my fault, right?
Come on...
I once helped a buyer purchase a home. He was pre-approved with a great credit score, good income, and he showed that he was a strong buyer.
We closed on the home and he moved in, happy as a clam.
I find out a year later from a neighbor that he never made the first mortgage payment. He bought the house just to piss off his ex wife, and he let it go into foreclosure.
Was if my fault? HELL NO. Not even close.
It sounds like you need to de-tach yourself from this situation and stop taking on other people's problems.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
1,713,581
Even on our own properties we manage ourselves we have a property manager do a full check on the tenant. Ultimately it is owner beware but I would do this at the very least to insure your reputation as a professional who believes in due diligence.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
982,293
I don't think any responsibility for the agent.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
19,676
Theresa, I put a tenant in the property after a credit check and employment verification. I got a copy from the hOA asociation that the neighbor complained that the tenant was noisy and the dog was running around the townhome. The tenants had signed the MIMO that the tenant understood there is no petd allowed. When I contacted the tenants, they said they got the puppy for their 4 year old and it would break his heard if they had to get rid of the puppy. Their lease is up in 6 month, and guess what, they are out of there, we will not extend the lease.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
18,223
One of the reasons, I don't like doing rentals, you never know. With all of the extensive background checks, credit checks, credit scores, work history, you would think you have a winner.
Just had a bad rental, Waited them out till the end of lease, broke even with the security deposit and my client stuck with me.
I think my statistics are 80% good and 20% problem tenants. I let my owners know that up front. And the final decision is up to them.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
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Frank Rubi
Metairie, LA
216,960
We can't assume how people will handle their financial obligations; other than provide the Landlord with the information requested. However, I always inform Landlords that they always should send the 5 day notice to any tenants on the sixth day rent was due. It will certainly inform all tenants that the rent is past due, landlord is serious and now a fine is added to their rent. Good tenants will usually apologize and never get it late again, but those that are late within the first few months are generally the problem children. There is no way to foresee a problem tenant. It is up to the landlord to handle their tenants, but I can help with documents or referrals, if needed.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
76,009
Thanks guys for your answers!
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
284,737
Jillian Jno Charles None. As long as I did my due diligence on my clients behalf and sent them the pertinent information for them to make an informed decision, it is their responsibility after that.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
4,322,035
Jillian, since they approved the tenants, they can take it over after signing the lease. Yout can't stop them blaming anyone, however it should not be you!
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
144,367
I may make a recommendation as to which tenant to select, and I tell the owner why I think it's a good match. The owner makes the actual choice. a couple owners went contrary to my recommendation and one ended up with a punctual tenant but a trashed house, the other got a punctual tenant who only stayed one year. Owner was very specific that he wanted a long term tenant but selected a couple that said from the beginning that they wanted to buy a house.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
281,548
I have a pretty decent track record and although I do all those things you need to do (references, credit check, rent history check, etc) I also have key questions and a dialogue down that will point out warning signs.
But I do warn them that although we do all this there is potential and there will always be potential for a tenant not to pay rent for whatever reason. But we minimize that risk.
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI
3,074,389
699,277
None. It's the owners responsibility to research who they wish to have in their property.
248,831
One of the reasons I refer those Clients to Agents who have created this as a niche.