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Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Owners are quick to approve a tenant to get someone in the house to cover payments.

If the tenant that they approved turns sour, owners are quick to blame the agent.  Who else is there to blame?

May 08, 2015 01:05 AM
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Kristy Conway
ENC Property Management, LLP - Greenville, NC
MBA, Broker - Greenville, NC Property Management

As a property manager, I throughly screen our tenants, credit score, eviction/judgment history, criminal check, employment verification and if they pass recommend them to our Owner Client.  If they become behind on their rent, its the TENANT's responsibility and my only responsibility if they will not pay is to make sure they are legally evicted.  NO PAY, NO STAY!

 

May 08, 2015 12:07 AM
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Jeanne Gregory
RE/MAX Southwest - Sugar Land, TX
The most important home I sell is YOURS!

If the owner/property manager made the decision it's theirs to own.  "You shot it Tarzan, you eat it"

May 07, 2015 11:58 PM
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Beatrice Briseno
RE/MAX Unlimited - San Antonio, TX
Beatrice M. Briseno, GRI, CDPE, San Antonio, TX

As a Property Manager I cannot blame the agent who referred the tenant. Our job is to run the application and qualify the tenant. That is not the procuring agents job

May 07, 2015 02:24 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

if the client accepted the tenant, you're done with any responsibility.... you can't control whether people pay or not.... if they have a good history, it doesn't mean they're good forever....there's risk with everyone....even the very best...it's just less risk with the very best!!

May 07, 2015 01:21 AM
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John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Not an ounce unless it's my tenant. 

May 08, 2015 01:30 AM
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Jerry Lucas
ABC Legal Docs LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Notary Training, Consulting. Colorado Springs, CO

What representations did you make about the tenant?  What is the basis of the recommendation?  Have you done a thorough background check to discover potential problems?  A credit check alone is not sufficient.

There are cases where owners have sued property managers for negligent tenant screening and costs of eviction.  Does the owner review the application and approve the tenant or rely on the licensed real estate professional?  What services does the written agreement include?

May 08, 2015 01:04 AM
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Travis "the SOLD man" Parker; Broker/Owner
Travis Realty - Enterprise, AL
email: Travis@theSOLDman.me / cell: 334-494-7846

If they decide NOT to use a property Manger, ours or other, then NOT MY responsibility, and carefully explained beforehand!

May 08, 2015 04:19 AM
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Stieg Strand
RE/MAX Results - Eden Prairie, MN
showing up. working hard. every day.

For the good, the bad, and the unfortunate... Agents cannot bear ANY responsibility for someone not paying their rent. If there is some "undisclosed" info that the agent kept to themselves about this particular renter, now we are into a different arena that would be very different..........Just my two cents. 

May 08, 2015 01:30 AM
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Debra B Albert, PA - Keyes Realty
Keyes Realty Treasure Coast, 34986 - Port St Lucie, FL
Ron and Debbie 772.708.3292

NONE!  I bring potential renters to the owner, most often they are not my client.  Even if they are, once their credit and background is run, it is not my decision and I have zero liability for their future behavior.  I list and lease, I am not a management company.

May 08, 2015 01:03 AM
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Adele Langdon
Los Angeles, CA
Exclusive Realty Inc.

No as long as they were checked out and everything was fine, it's not my responsibility after that.  

May 08, 2015 01:02 AM
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Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Eighteen Years Experience in Brevard County

None whatsover as long as you did your best to provide professional services.

May 08, 2015 12:58 AM
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Neal Sanford
Realty Kings Properties - Houston, TX

If the agent has provided a tenant and the landlord has reviewed their credit history and verified their income the landlord accepts them at that point in time based on that third party information.  The Tenant Rep would not typically be responsible for anything that happens after the lease is signed as long as the agent didn't missrepresent.  If a tenant signs a lease and moves in then looses their employment and can't make the lease payment or just decides to default there is nothing the referring agent could have done or could have known about?  Anyone else?

May 08, 2015 12:30 AM
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Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

None. The owner makes the decision on which tenant to accept. I don't do property managements.

May 07, 2015 11:46 PM
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Raoul Loustaunau
EXP REALTY - Phoenix, AZ
urhomefinder.com myvaluetoday.com

Good morning Jillian , none because at the end if they are not using a management company they make the final desicion of who is going to rent their property , great question have a super month

May 07, 2015 12:53 AM
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Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

I do not take on any responsibility for a tenant who goes sour. My job is to screen them and if they have met the Landlords' requirements I then forward the name on to the Owner. The Owner ultimately makes the decision.  Once that's done ... my responsibility has been completed.  I've only had one bad apple and the Owner did not blame me at all. In fact he had me find him another tenant ... which I did.

May 08, 2015 04:22 PM
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Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

None. The landlord either has a PM or manages that task himself. So, agents bring tenants that are pre - qualified but it's the PM or landlord that should confirm their validity and financial qualifications of the tenant. 

May 08, 2015 08:17 AM
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Tammy Adams ~ Realtor / Podcaster
Maricopa Real Estate Co - Maricopa, AZ
A Maricopa Agent who Works, Lives & Loves Maricopa

I am myself a landlord. I do not think it is the agent's responsibility if the tenant doesn't pay. It is the owners job to vet them. Our job to help them find a home. 

May 08, 2015 07:35 AM
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Keith Whited
RE/MAX Gateway - Alexandria, VA

Absolutely none whatsoever! We find the tenant. Once creditis run, incomes verified, etc. and the owner accepts the tenant your (my) responsibilty is over.

May 08, 2015 05:34 AM
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Theresa Akin
CORPUS CHRISTI REALTY GROUP - Corpus Christi, TX

Zero responsibility on my end. When the potential client/tenant calls and wants to see a certain rental(s), I Google and Facebook them, I meet with them at the office and have them sign a Buyer/Tenant Rep Agreement. I had one tenant tell me she had no pets but was taking care of a friend's 2 large dogs. Told her the properties she wanted to view were not pet friendly. I know it was not my place but told the property manager about it and informed the potential tenant that no pets were allowed on the premises. Too much pet damage in the past. She would not sign an agreement. So I didn't move any further. The listing agent called me and asked if I knew the name. The gal was not approved. After a potential client has moved in it is not our responsibility what happens after the fact!

 

May 08, 2015 01:37 AM
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Thomas McCombs
Century 21 HomeStar - Akron, OH

What does your agreement say? (You do have an agreement, don't you?

May 08, 2015 12:09 AM
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Tamra Lee Ulmer
Arizona Resource Realty - Payson, AZ
NRBA ~FORCE~ Over 1000 REO Assets SOLD!

Jillian, I think it may be a " reflection of selection "...really. We can not control what others do, or when they decide to pay despite what there POF, source of income or how great their Credit Background is, but still,  it somehow is a reflection to us as the Agent/Property Manager to the Client.

May 07, 2015 04:54 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Just experienced that. Someone with claimed FICO score of 780 are 3 months late. Gave them Xmas asking them to vacate in January.  The home was littered with belongings.  I have not spoken to the paid agent for awhile.  Flooring was damaged. 

May 07, 2015 04:01 AM
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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

It all depends on who made the decision to rent to the tenant. If the owner made the final decision based on the facts you presented, it would be their responsibility.

May 07, 2015 03:31 AM
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James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

I don't have any rentals and one of the reason is that I don't want the owners calling when they have an issue such as you described.

May 07, 2015 03:16 AM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Zero, I did not take them to raise.

May 07, 2015 02:53 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jillian Jno Charles I would say beyond initial qualifying the renter no responsibility. It's up to the landlord to check credit history and references. Of course if the property is property managed by a real estate firm, they have the responsibility for checking out the renter.

May 07, 2015 02:52 AM
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Glad I don't have to deal with renters. 

May 07, 2015 02:31 AM
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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

do your due diligence, give the landlord the information and move on - you are done. 

May 07, 2015 02:08 AM
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Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

None,  they make the choice. I do a few high end rentals and all I can do is a credit and criminal background check and an interview. No promises.

May 07, 2015 01:41 AM
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Renee Paray
Coldwell Banker Realty - Blue Bell, PA
REALTOR

Zero. The renters that I place have gone through a lot to get into the rental. They typically have to provide a recent credit report, letter of reference from previous landlord, as well as filling out the rental application and providing job history and banking info. If the rental client passes the qualifications of the above, that is all I can do as a real estate agent. 

May 07, 2015 12:57 AM
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Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

I am not a lawyer, but if you did all the required and agreed upon screening and were honest with your client what else can you do.  I see no responsibility.  

May 11, 2015 06:33 AM
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Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

None!  I supply the tenant and the owner or agent runs their credit and does a background check.  I don't approve the tenant or provide any information.  Easy peasy in Scottsdale!

May 10, 2015 11:15 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

This is one I could argue both ways. But it is still up to the landlord to do their due diligence on a prospective tenant. Even if I didn't have any real responsiblity, I would still feel bad.

May 08, 2015 10:17 PM
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Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

All of it.  I mean, it's my fault, right?  

Come on...  

I once helped a buyer purchase a home.  He was pre-approved with a great credit score, good income, and he showed that he was a strong buyer.  

We closed on the home and he moved in, happy as a clam.  

I find out a year later from a neighbor that he never made the first mortgage payment.  He bought the house just to piss off his ex wife, and he let it go into foreclosure.  

Was if my fault?  HELL NO.  Not even close.  

It sounds like you need to de-tach yourself from this situation and stop taking on other people's problems.  

May 08, 2015 09:54 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Even on our own properties we manage ourselves we have a property manager do a full check on the tenant. Ultimately it is owner beware but I would do this at the very least to insure your reputation as a professional who believes in due diligence. 

May 08, 2015 09:12 AM
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Frank Rubi
Frank Rubi Real Estate, LLC - Metairie, LA
FrankRubiRealEstate.com

I don't think any responsibility for the agent. 

May 08, 2015 04:28 AM
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Rose O'Reilly Sievers,CRS,SRES
Carlsbad, CA

Theresa, I put a tenant in the property after a credit check and employment verification. I got a copy from the hOA asociation that the neighbor complained that the tenant was noisy and the dog was running around the townhome.  The tenants had signed the MIMO that the tenant understood there is no petd allowed.  When I contacted the tenants, they said they got the puppy for their 4 year old and it would break his heard if they had to get rid of the puppy.  Their lease is up in 6 month, and guess what, they are out of there, we will not extend the lease.

May 08, 2015 03:11 AM
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Robert Hierspiel
Weichert Realtors - Wayne, NJ
"Welcome Home"

One of the reasons, I don't like doing rentals, you never know. With all of the extensive background checks, credit checks, credit scores, work history, you would think you have a winner.

Just had a bad rental, Waited them out till the end of lease, broke even with the security deposit and my client stuck with me.

I think my statistics are 80% good and 20% problem tenants. I let my owners know that up front. And the final decision is up to them.

 

May 08, 2015 02:03 AM
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Sharon Altier
Coldwell Banker Realty - Elmhurst, IL
Luxury Property Specialist, CSC, SFR

We can't assume how people will handle their financial obligations; other than provide the Landlord with the information requested.  However, I always inform Landlords that they always should send the 5 day notice to any tenants on the sixth day rent was due.  It will certainly inform all tenants that the rent is past due, landlord is serious and now a fine is added to their rent.  Good tenants will usually apologize and never get it late again, but those that are late within the first few months are generally the problem children. There is no way to foresee a problem tenant.  It is up to the landlord to handle their tenants, but I can help with documents or referrals, if needed.

May 07, 2015 04:37 AM
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Jillian La Rocque
St Thomas, VI

Thanks guys for your answers!

May 07, 2015 01:36 AM
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Greg Mona
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Professional Real Estate Representation for YOU!

Jillian Jno Charles None.  As long as I did my due diligence on my clients behalf and sent them the pertinent information for them to make an informed decision, it is their responsibility after that.

May 10, 2015 04:13 AM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Jillian, since they approved the tenants, they can take it over after signing the lease. Yout can't stop them blaming anyone, however it should not be you!

May 09, 2015 05:46 AM
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Sylvia Jonathan
Coldwell Banker Platinum Properties - Irvine, CA
Broker Associate, SFR

I may make a recommendation as to which tenant to select, and I tell the owner why I think it's a good match. The owner makes the actual choice. a couple owners went contrary to my recommendation and one ended up with a punctual tenant but a trashed house, the other got a punctual tenant who only stayed one year. Owner was very specific that he wanted a long term tenant but selected a couple that said from the beginning that they wanted to buy a house.

May 09, 2015 01:45 AM
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Richard Robibero, e-Pro, ABR, SRS
Panorama R.E. Limited - Toronto, ON
Selling Your Home as if it were My Own!

I have a pretty decent track record and although I do all those things you need to do (references, credit check, rent history check, etc) I also have key questions and a dialogue down that will point out warning signs.

But I do warn them that although we do all this there is potential and there will always be potential for a tenant not to pay rent for whatever reason. But we minimize that risk.

May 08, 2015 09:32 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

It's one reason I don't handle rentals.

Nov 18, 2018 06:23 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Zero - the lease is between the landlord and the tenant

Nov 09, 2017 04:15 AM
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Homes for Sale in Naples, Bonita Springs and Estero, Florida - Naples, FL
Broker/Associate at Premiere Plus Realty

None.  It's the owners responsibility to research who they wish to have in their property.

May 12, 2015 06:45 AM
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Dale Taylor
Re/Max 10 New Lenox Illinois http://dtaylor.remax.com - Frankfort, IL
Realtor = Chicago Illinois Homes Townhomes Condos

One of the reasons I refer those Clients to Agents who have created this as a niche.

May 12, 2015 06:38 AM