1,650,236
Simple: I'd ask them to sign a waver to a home inspection and record it in follow up email describing what have happened, asking to confirm. All inspections are optional here in CA.
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Patricia Zuk
Wayne, NJ
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Rita Harris
Seattle, WA
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Leslie Campos
Safford, AZ
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Mary Lawler
San Diego, CA
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Robert Hicks
Savannah, TN
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Eric Valente
Calabasas, CA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
1,772,017
I agree with Gabe Sanders see what he says first. If everything looked ok then its no big deal but advise that you really need advice from an inspector familiar with the state laws.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Leslie Campos
Safford, AZ
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
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Gabe Sanders
Stuart, FL
1,466,257
Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor® What good is a home inspection without a written report? Unless it is for information purposes only.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Leslie Campos
Safford, AZ
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Fred Cope
Nashville, TN
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
3,627,422
An inspector is an inspector but here if it is not in writing it didn't exist. No report no inspection.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Mary Lawler
San Diego, CA
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Doug Kendall
Kanata, ON
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
3,430,007
Interesting question, Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor® Buyer certainly has right to bring anyone they choose, including Dad and Uncle Bob. I would explain the risk and consequences and then have the buyer sign a waiver, noting the facts.
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Tammy Adams ~ Realtor ...
Maricopa, AZ
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Rita Harris
Seattle, WA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
2,184,289
As long as the buyers are aware that without a written report they most likely won't be able to request any repairs, it is up to them whom they choose for their inspections.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Rita Harris
Seattle, WA
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Doug Kendall
Kanata, ON
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
6,002,794
I think if you have a buyer's agency agreement you owe that buyer this information. The inspection report needs to be in writing, and why are they paying for this? I would definitely have them sign a waiver to protect yourself.
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Patricia Zuk
Wayne, NJ
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Doug Kendall
Kanata, ON
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
4,800,282
First I would let the buyer know this is a potential problem.
Then, I would wait to see what the inspection report says. If it has some funky items that are not germane to your typical local inspections than I would let the buyer know it will be a problem.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Fred Cope
Nashville, TN
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Noah Seidenberg
Evanston, IL
1,341,157
Any time a home inspector ventures out side his territory there will always be the risk that they are not aware of things peculiar or specific to that other area.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Leslie Campos
Safford, AZ
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Fred Cope
Nashville, TN
634,582
- Warn them the inspector may not be famiiar with your state codes.
- Have them sign a waiver.
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Patricia Zuk
Wayne, NJ
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Eric Valente
Calabasas, CA
2,759,862
what is the point of having the inspection? The purpose of having the inspection is to have something in writing.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
2,234,859
I haven't had this happen. In my state home inspectors don't have to be licensed. Since this is a rural area, I know most of the inspectors. They all seem to do a great job, but if it did come up, I like Inna Ivchenko answer.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Eric Valente
Calabasas, CA
1,442,553
Being licensed in another state means nothing outside of that state. I would not prevent an inspector selected by the buyer from doing an inspection. I would point out that an inspector who is licensed in another state (inspectors are not licensed in California) may not be familiar with building codes, laws and customs in another state. The value of the report would be questionable.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
2,538,789
That's a tough one Hella. Without a written report there is no validity, especially if you have to go back to the seller. Having said that, I would not stand in the way of the inspector.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Hella M. Rothwell, Bro...
Carmel by the Sea, CA
5,584,639
verbal is not going to be valid in court.... insist that there be a written report on record....or the attorney for the seller and agent better have a tightly woven agreement that protects the parties in the future....
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
18,309
In our area where we have a very fast market, I have run across buyers who bring Dad, Uncle, inspectors who do the inspection and YOU, the buyer take your own notes. Most times, it takes too long to write up the report and you could lose the house waiting for the pre-inspection appointment or report....
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Inna Ivchenko
Encino, CA
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
13,904
I would get into "curiosity" and ask why on earth would my client want to use an inspector that will not provide a written report? I would advise them with a little wiosdon - "The weakest Ink is stronger than the best memory!" "If he finds 50 things that need repair, do you believe you will remember them all?"Laws and standards vary from state to state, so I would consult with the buyer and ask, "Do you see the wisdom and common sense in using the very best qualified inspector?" They would have to answer, in the affirmative.
The real question is why they would show up with an out of state inspector who will not provide a written report - especially if you the agent have provided them a thorough overview of the process?! It makes no sense. Nevertheless, there is always a first time for everything. As one of the other agents recommended - depending upon the insistance of the consumer, I would get a document waiving a licensed inspector as being their decision and acknowledge that they were advised to use a local licensed professional who would provide a written report.
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Margaret Kapranos
Novato, CA
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
25,760
Actually, it is unlawful in California to provide anything other than a "written" inspection report. Though we are not licensed, there are references in the Business & Profession code that regulate home inspectors. I believe section 7195 covers this mandate.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Hella M. Rothwell, Bro...
Carmel by the Sea, CA
117,855
I am of the understanding that NAHI and ASHI certifications were National Certifications. If the inspector were certified through one of those, what would the issue be? Many states use those credentials for their criteria of "licensure".
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Rita Harris
Seattle, WA
93,694
I'd have them sign a waiver. I've had this happen. Wasn't my buyer but my listing, an REO in pretty rough shape. The buyer's agent included several inspections in the PA but they buyer decided she didn't want to pay for them so she had a "friend who is a contractor" look at the house for her. Her agent never told us she was waiving inspections and never got a waiver signed. A few weeks after closing she realized how bad the house was. Turned into a big mess.
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Inna Ivchenko
Encino, CA
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
1,432,699
Are you a CA Agent. Let them inspect. No license required. But if they want any repairs or modification of price they will then need a report. It may be they are getting this done discounted and just want someone to do a walk through.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Gene Riemenschneider
Brentwood, CA
3,265,419
Like, Inna just said, have them sign a waiver, stating they brought their own inspector. After all, it is their decision despite you trying to convince them otherwise.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Tony Romero
Autaugaville, AL
450,840
In Maryland, we are only allowed to recommend licensed home inspectors, but my buyers are free to use the inspector of their choice for the home inspection. However, if we ask the seller for any repairs, a copy of the written inspection report must accompany that request. So, I'd discuss this with the buyers and see how they would like to proceed.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Rita Harris
Seattle, WA
323,719
I am not surprised. In years gone by, many a boyfriend has puffed out his chest, and did a home inspection for a girlfriend. I always asked the young lady, if loverboy missed an important item that winds up costing her thousands of dollars, would she take him to court? Would she file suit against dad or bubba? So, who is protecting you? Hire a licensed and certified home inspector, and order a home warranty.
Tennessee requires home inspectors to be licensed, in addition to REALTORS®, Appraisers, Attorneys and Mortgage Loan Officers. I will remember this when the next well meaning person calls Tennessee "back woods." I am smiling, but puzzled.
I was unprepared to learn that California does not license home inspectors. I would not have been surprised to learn that paperboys and dog walkers were required to be state licensed, but I learned something today.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Tony Romero
Autaugaville, AL
5,310,754
It's their inspection. But I would have them sign off on our professional services disclosure form that they selected their own inspector who is not licensed in our state and won't do a written report. I would also remind them that without a written report it could be difficult to get a seller to agree to any repairs.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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James Dray
Bentonville, AR
3,416,372
I like to tell them up front during the offer making process what should be done next and what makes a good inspector. Here in Nh they dont have to be licensed so we get a lot of drifters from MA looking for work. Reputation is everything when hiring them.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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James Dray
Bentonville, AR
5,114,065
I would strongly advise them to use an inspector licensed in our state. Also the advise would be in writing.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
4,434,227
If the report is not inwriting how will the buyer ask for repairs or credit for repairs from the seller?
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
4,322,035
Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor® - usually I let buyers know that inspection is very important - so I'd recommend them my inspector. If they still go ahead with someone, I'd like the buyer to know that the inspector should be licensed to work in MA! And if they still want someone else....all the best!
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,683,918
I guess I would tell the buer he is wasting his money.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
23,743
Many of our investor buyers are waving all inspections and contingencies, some of them do bring inspectors, but do not order an official report.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
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Inna Ivchenko
Encino, CA
684,752
First off ... I explain to my buyers (in writing) when they get an accepted offer that if they are going to want to ask the seller to fix, replace or repair any major defects they must use a Wisconsin Licensed Home Inspector and a Full Home Inspection Report must be prepared to give to the Seller (according to out Offer to Purchase). If they chose to use an out-of-state Lender they would be using the inspector just for "their information purposes ONLY".
I've never had a problem with a buyer not understanding this procedure.
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Inna Ivchenko
Encino, CA
166,541
I inspected my daughter's family home purchase in Calgary. ReMax agent was there for the inspection. My daughter had the PDF that evening as did my son-in-law in Angola.
I am registered in ND and have tried to interest our MN legislative body in starting licensing in MN to no avail.
To perform an inspection in ND does require a ND registered inspector.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
1,870,453
The buyer can have anyone come with to do the report in IL but in order to present themselves as credible they must be licensed. Uncle Waldo can do the inspection but if he asks for repairs it pretty much doesn't count. After all, buyer could hire tons on relatives to knock the price down with such erroneous repairs.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
638,226
Our purchase agreement requires a written report by a licensed inspector or a licensed contractor in my state. I would make sure my buyer knows that their inspection could be not valid if they dont meet the requirements.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
1,781,199
I'm thinking that inspector may be a friend or relative, doing a favor. As most have said, have the buyers sign a waiver and explain about state codes and the fact that they can't ask the seller for repairs without a written report.
I'm really startled to read that California doesn't license inspectors - and that many other states also don't. Hairdressers yes - inspectors no? Odd!
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
85,473
The buyer brings an ispector from another state? Really? I've never seen that.
I'd ask why not use one from this state. If buyer says because I like this one. OK.
No written report? I'd get out "For Your Protection Get A Home Inspection (FHA)" and/or "Buyer Inspecion Waiver."
Either way is fine with me.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
21,941
No written report means the buyers are buying the property as-is and you cannot use the inspection clause to cancell the deal. As long as they are fine with that then no big deal.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
158,165
Summarize and document it, have the client sign.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
21,495
After reading the responses, it sure seems like this is one area that varies significantly from state-to-state. In AZ, home inspectiors are licensed, but there is no requirement that a licensed person do aninspection. Our request for repairs forms are written by the agents and we don't always get copies of the written reports. If one of my buyers wants to use a licensed contractor or inspector familiar with AZ laws and the county requirements, there would be no problem. At the same time, if they want to use someone from a different states, even if licensed there, I would have them sign a waiver.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
694,668
This was common during the 2005-2006 debacle. Buyers would have an inspection done, no report, BEFORE putting a ridiculous offer on a house. Just have them sign an inspection waiver to cover your behind.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
293,277
Another scenario that makes me scratch my head, thanks for the post
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
613,494
No problem...they are now buying the house "as is".
If they expect me to negotiate any repairs or price adjustments, I need to show proof to the Seller and LA that there really are issues.
Its that simple.
Eve
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
178,815
They are buying the house so they can have whoever they want inspect it. I've had buyers use ASHI & CREIA inspectors that I didn't think were very good or thourough but my buyers selected them due to recommendation by family or friends. A good contractor or home builder can certainly inspect a home - they don't need to be a dues paying member of a local organization.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
5,166,343
I would discuss the issues with the buyer and have them sign an inspection waiver with the details noted (out of state, no report).
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
921,504
Treat it the same as Uncle Joe.
The buyer will consider Uncle Joe's opinion and responds accordingly.
I really don't need an INSPECTORS report to substantiate the need to replace a rusty water heater or a Zensco power panel.
In the end the buyer will decide how much they want the house. Buyer B is just hours away.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
637,534
Thank you all for your answers. I did as Joe Petrowsky recommended, I did not stand in the way of the inspector. After all, in California, a home inspector does not have to be licensed. What initially concerned me was that there was no written report. However, if the buyer was good with that, there was no reason for me to say anything. As it turned out, the items that were of concern, were items that the seller should repair. All except one, and it was recommended by both the "inspector" and myself that the buyer hire a licensed inspector for that specific possible problem.
I don't believe I need a waiver from the buyer as to the home inspection itself just because there is none in writing. But I'm checking on that!
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
3,988,138
Since a license is required and stated on the purchase contract in the small print. I would say that they were not welcome to inspect.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
443,220
At that point, probably nothing except have her sign a waiver to a home inspection. Generally however, I discuss inspections with my buyers once we open escrow, and give them several good names to pick from.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
1,713,581
In would respond by pointing out that if you are not licensed as an inspector in the state of Oklahoma then you cannot site anything as defective, so enjoy your as is home.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
682,539
I would have a "Come to Jesus" meeting with my buyer about an inspector not licensed where the property is located AND one not willing to write out a report. It presents issues on the thoroughness of the inspection and the ability to ask for any repairs... a verbal inspection report is worth the paper it isn't written on.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
402,032
I'd probably tell them it's fine to have the out of state inspector, but in doing so, they are acting against the broker's advice regarding inspection. I'd have the buyers sign something stating they are aware they are acting against the broker's advice.
The sellers will likely want to see an inspection report if the buyers request any repairs. The buyers should be prepared to have requests for repair rejected. Of course, that goes for any transaction, but especially one in which the inspection is so non-traditional.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
1,770,940
Without photos and a written report, how does the buyer expect to ask for repairs or concessions from the seller? And if the inspector is from another state, it's highly unlikely that he is familiar with all current building codes.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
818,855
Explain this could be a problem.
If an issue is uncovered the seller may take the tack that the home inspections was not completed by a licensed inspector in the agreed upon time and therefore not have to comply.
Have subscribed to answers on the quesiton. Would like to see the opion of others, or a clear statement from a settlement attorney.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
67,369
I would have a discuss the situation with my buyer immediately. I would explain and write report is required etc.
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Diana Dahlberg
Pleasant Prairie, WI
630,351
3,074,389
248,831
Assuming this is after we have put the deal together, and within the inspection period allowed in the contract, I remind the Buyers we went over how we were to conduct ourselves according to the contract, and suggest they review the inspection provisions in the contract. I stay flexible and allow the inspection.
115,392
Lots of good suggestions. Something tells me this is a family member or friend offering to "do a favor" or a buyer who thinks they know it all or trying to save pennies. The inspector is not putting it in writing to not get himself in trouble, is my guess. If that is the case, this is a woefully uninformed buyer. I would definitely consult with your broker's legal department to protect yourself, along with providing a written explanation to the buyer advising them against this, detailing the action and get them to sign off on this.
282,068
In Michigan, there is no license for inspectors and nothing that states the report has to be in writing from our boards. Buyers are free to inspect or not inspect. They can choose who they like. That said unless the buyer is a builder doing a flip or tear down. They always get an inspector, Generally one who is certified.
226,619
If you are in a state that requires a license, it's not an option. In NJ you need a license to perform an inspection of a 1-4 family home. A license in another state is not acceptable and it is illeagal. Without a license law, your hands are tied. You can only recommend to your client what best practices are.
305,610
Great question and quite a few answers of similar theme. While we all agree we need to explain the pros and cons to the client, waiver etc. I am shocked that everyone seems to come across as having never ran into this before. LOL Not a wise choice but there are people that do it.
699,277
446,464
If it's not in writing it is not legal and binding. Check off the box that says buyer chooses not to have an inspection and have him sign.
557,575
It's the buyer's inspector, regardless of who it is and if they are satisfied without a written report, so be it, however, without a written report, it's unlikely the seller would consider any action. Consequently, the buyer could lose their opportunity to buy the property and their fee to their inspector.
519,824
Hella,
I'd at least discuss it with my client. In my state they can have whoever they want, but if they are not a licensed inspector and didn't provide a report, I don't know how we'd be able to request any repairs or corrections.
When I purchased my first house, I bypassed using a licensed inspector and brought a friend over who had built houses. We stepped all over the bodies of dead carpenter ants and didn't know it. Any competent inspector would have found them and the seller would likely have paid for treatment.