Bobbi Burke (Envoy Real Estate Services)

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Kona Home Team (luva llc) Lance Owens (RS)
Kona Home Team (luva llc) - Kailua-Kona, HI
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Be carefull, In Hawaii we deal with a lot of foriegn clients and the only thing most banks will accept is the one from the Embassy. So even if you  find another option, the banks or title company here may not accept the  document - even though it is notarized. I have Canadian clients that actually drive across the border to the US , just to get something notarized 

Mar 27, 2015 02:12 AM
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Eric Kodner
Madeline Island Realty - La Pointe, WI
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If there is a correspondent bank in Fuzhou with a relationship to your bank in Phoenix, they could probably arrange to notarize the document for you. 

Mar 26, 2015 11:58 AM
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Jerry Lucas
ABC Legal Docs LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
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Most notaries are commissioned as public officials under state law and only have jurisdiction in their home state.  In a few cases, they can notarize in neighboring states with reciprocal notary laws.

There are also notaries authorized under Federal law. They serve military personnel stationed at home or overseas.  In the US embassies and consulates, there are State Department employees that notarize documents for US citizens overseas.

Many countries signed an international treaty at the Hague, Netherlands in 1961.  They have agreed that a document notarized by a local notary in one country, and then authenticated by the notary regulator, by attachment of a certificate known as an apostille, will be accepted in another country that is also a Hague Treaty member.  The list of participating countries may be found at
http://www.hcch.net/index_en.php?act=conventions.status&cid=41

The US Consulate in Shanghai has notary information on their website at http://shanghai.usembassy-china.org.cn/notary_services.html

There are also tribal notaries on some Indian reservations who notarize documents under tribal law.  Some Indian tribes use state notaries.  And there are ecclesiastic notaries who are authorized under church or canon law and deal with church legal matters.

Mar 27, 2015 03:45 AM
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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
Movoto - Laguna Niguel, CA

Would a limited Power of Attorney help?  The wife would be able to act on the husband's behalf if a fax or DocuSign signature is acceptable on a POA.

Mar 26, 2015 12:46 PM
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Larry Story ALC
Total Care Realty - Greensboro, NC
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Unfortunately, He is right in the middle between the nearest US Consulate offices.  The nearest ones to Fuzhou are at;

333 S Suzhou Rd

Huangpu, Shanghai, China
+86 21 6321 1646

And

Huajiu Rd
Tianhe, Guangzhou, Guangdong, China.

 

Problem is he is halfway in between both.  My aunt travels regularly to China to work with different provinces helping setup schools.  

 

Hope this helps

Mar 27, 2015 10:39 AM
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Bobbi Burke
Envoy Real Estate Services - Phoenix, AZ

Eric - great idea!  I just found a BofA affiliate branch in Fuzhou where the husband is located so we'll explore that possibility.  Jill - great thinking on the PoA but the notary thing would still apply in Arizona...

Mar 26, 2015 12:58 PM
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Bobbi Burke
Envoy Real Estate Services - Phoenix, AZ

Thanks, Paul....an American consulate would work, too, but I still can't get closer to him than 9 hours even at that.... Pooh!  Delayed closing....or hoping his wife can get him to scurry home a bit early....ha!

Mar 26, 2015 11:55 AM
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Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

My client had to go to the embassy to have their document notarized and to be accepted by the title company and loan underwriter.

Mar 26, 2015 11:39 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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Large American companies?

Hope this worked out well for you.

Jan 11, 2020 11:03 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Sorry, no clue.

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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
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Ajay Pandya
e-Merge Real Estate Unlimited - Columbus, OH
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No idea.

Mar 20, 2018 04:45 PM
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Theresa Akin
CORPUS CHRISTI REALTY GROUP - Corpus Christi, TX

I had a client whose wife was in Mexico and would not be able to make it to the closing here in Texas. Before she left while we were still searching for their home, they got a Specific Power of Attorney. She needed to be at home for the call to verify who she was.  They took care of all necessary paperwork before she even left. That Specific Power of Attorney had to be OK'd by the attorneys with the title company.

Mar 31, 2015 12:38 AM
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Bobbi Burke
Envoy Real Estate Services - Phoenix, AZ

BTW - from everything I've studied that you guys suggested, I would say that Jim and Rick nailed it with NotaryCam.  Still not accepted widely but the technology holds the best promise that I see....I'm advocating in Arizona along with my title company.....

Mar 29, 2015 03:18 PM
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Bobbi Burke
Envoy Real Estate Services - Phoenix, AZ

WOW!  I've been busy this weekend checking into all the possibilities thrown out here.  Thank you all for being willing to jump in and help.  For those who want to know how we solved the problem:  For the title company we're dealing with, we must have the American notarization to be valid.  So the buyer's one option was to trek the 9 hours to the Embassy.  So we were going to delay the closing until we realized the buyers' 20-yr-old son [who's wheelchair-bound and likely to live with them always] could step in.  Late today, we assigned the contract to him and we're back on track... :0)

Mar 29, 2015 03:15 PM
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Dorte Engel
RE/MAX Leading Edge - Bowie, MD
ABC - Annapolis, Bowie, Crofton & rest of Maryland

Dear Bobbi,

Great comments. Not sure about Asia, but a notary in some other countries is actually an attorney & it can take months to get the document notarized, since it first has to be officially translated by a licensed translator. It is also very costly. The distance to the embassy is also an issue, as not all have immediate appointments available. Some lenders here will accept a signature from a bank employee with official stamps, since there are a lot more banks closer to clients than embassies & many have a system that approximates, what we consider notarization.

Mar 29, 2015 03:06 PM
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Rick Triola
Settleware Secure Services, Inc. - Laguna Beach, CA

Thanks jim. Yes we can take care of your overseas notarization. please got to www.notraycam.com and click get started.

Mar 28, 2015 01:34 PM
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Rick Triola
Settleware Secure Services, Inc. - Laguna Beach, CA

Thanks Jim..Cusitomer can just go to www.notarycam.com and click on 'get started'. Liimited weekend hours, Mon-Friday 8am ET- 11pmnET, otherwise, customer can make an appointment. Process takes less than 10 minutes. 

Mar 28, 2015 08:22 AM
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Jim Miner
Miner Noh & Associates - Phoenix, AZ
Loan Modfication & Short Sale Specialist

Once in a rare while a member of the embassy will go to the client, there must be extenuating circumstances.  Might want to give it a try.

Mar 28, 2015 06:57 AM
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Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

You might try a service provided by Settleware called NotaryCam.  https://www.notarycam.com/how-it-works/ Rick Triola is their president and CEO and is very helpful.  I will send him a link to this blog so he can offer his insight if he has time.

Mar 28, 2015 12:14 AM
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Darrell Done
Pasadena, CA

It has been my experience that an American Embassy or Consulat is the only place to have a notarized document signed.  

Mar 27, 2015 09:16 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
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US consulate general.

Mar 27, 2015 07:39 AM
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Doyle Davison
Hawaiian Beaches Hawaii - 714-968-6767 - Huntington Beach, CA
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I have no clue unless there is someone at a money exchange. I hope you find someone Bobbi...

Mar 27, 2015 07:09 AM
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Jeanne Weaver
Coldwell Banker United - Houston, TX

I had a client who worked for big oil and they had a notary in the company who did it for him.

Mar 27, 2015 06:11 AM
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Linda Cooley
RE/Max Metro - Saint Petersburg, FL

Don't know about China...but I recently had a listing in France...the French seller tried to get notarized by a local who insisted the length of the forms required them to keep to read...then after 4 days still did not perform.  My sellers had to make an appointment with the US Embassy, which took about 3 days but at least was able to get done.

Mar 27, 2015 05:24 AM
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Carol Gilles
The RealEstate Group, 310-864-9738 - Torrance, CA
Negotiate & Communicate - Southern California

Why not contact the US Embassy in China and ask them. 

Mar 27, 2015 04:51 AM
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Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

I've learned a great deal from the comments here.  This is an issue that has not come up for me yet.  I am currently doing a transaction with two clients from China.  The are both in Dallas.

Mar 27, 2015 03:50 AM
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Sharon Altier
Coldwell Banker Realty - Elmhurst, IL
Luxury Property Specialist, CSC, SFR

Can't he get his docs curriered over to the embassy or have his business client help him with it? 

Mar 27, 2015 03:48 AM
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Lloyd Binen
Certified Realty Services - Saratoga, CA
Silicon Valley Realtor since 1976; 408-373-4411

It's either: (a) go to the embassy, or (b) to grant someone a Specific Power of Attorney.  In CA, let the Title Insurance company draw the POA, not an attorney.  It's a common issue with Silicon Valley buyers/sellers.

Mar 27, 2015 02:29 AM
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Ric Mills
Keller Williams Southern Az - Tucson, AZ
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If there is a US military Base near by, then they also have US notaries.  Otherwise it is a US Embassy or Consulate.  

Mar 27, 2015 02:06 AM
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Russ Ravary ~ Metro Detroit Realtor call (248) 310-6239
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Bobbi I have never run accross this.  Do the banks have notaries?

Mar 26, 2015 09:01 PM